Re: Discontinued Merit Badges
Settummanque, the blackeagle (waltoml@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU)
Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:39:24 CDT
Joe Onorato <Joe_Onorato@LSRHS.LINSUD.K12.MA.US> writes:
>> On another topic: (in response to Michael Bowman) I know of no general
>> BSA policy forbidding patch trading between youth and adults. There was
>> a restriction at the '93 Jambo, but I don't believe it ever became a
>> general policy. Am I mistaken?
Yep, Joe, you sure are.
The immediate reference to this is found in the current BSA Insignia
Guide. It states that patch trading should be between youth members
or between adult members, with no "badges of rank, achievement or
service" traded (yeah, right!).
Local Councils have supplemented this policy, which was first
implemented in 1981, not just recently, with additional restrictions
on what can and cannot be traded, swapped or even sold in a couple of
National, seeing how their wording in the Insignia Guide was a bit
mild, responded in 1992, by placing all of its special awards in a
supply category called "Restricted Purchase". In this, the ONLY way
you can purchase, for instance, a Hornaday Award square knot, is
through the Conservation Program division at the National Office. You
cannot order it from your Scout Shop nor can you get from mailorder.
The same exists for a lot of other National and some Council awards as
This HAS NOT stemmed the tide of trading between youth and adults, and
the BSA's Order of the Arrow Division sent out notices to all Lodges
that the practice of trading between youth and adult should
immediately be stopped (there was no "or else", but the implication
was there nevertheless), and patch trading should be a sidebar, and
NOT the main attraction, to OA activities at the Lodge level.
>Unless I am wrong, there is no National policy, however, at all of the major
>trips (more than just my council) they have prohibited this.
As Don Isard and I have stated here several times, Joe, it's NOT the
fact that youth and adults are trading that is causing the "big
deal"...youth have been trading with adults since the start of the
BSA. It's the fact that there are SOME youth and SOME adults that are
clearly "taking Scouts or Scouters to the cleaners" with their
improper tactics and clever ways of "getting what they want". As Don
spoke before, there are some kids that are pretty slick about getting
what they want from adults (sounds like kids, right?), and if they
don't get what they wanted, they will complain that the trade was a
I only trade non-significant things with youth (neckerchiefs, CSPs and
"garbage patches"), leaving the bigger trades with adults that
understand the significance and value of a given patch or device.
Hope that helps!
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