JLTC and Stuff
Tim McFeely (ad658@OSFN.RHILINET.GOV)
Sat, 8 Jul 1995 08:52:12 -0400
Reply To: SCOUTS-L@TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU
Just returned from another week of White Stag (Narragansett Council's version
of JLTC). We started with 57 participants, ended with 55 (2 went home because
of homesickness - see below), and had great weather all week. Our course is
totally boy run. This year we had very small and inexperienced staff, which
caused us to turn away more than 40 applicants. We had a heck of a time
recruiting staff members because of other commitments (it seems the boys have
more things on their plates than the adults do).
We run an 8 day course instead of the normal 7 days. It was decided several
years ago, by the JLTC subcommittee of the Training Committee, that we needed
to add an extra day to teach some basics. We found that scouts (First class and
13 before the 1st of Jan.) coming to the course were severely lacking in things
like firebuilding and cooking, etc. It is really hard on the staff to function
when they are invited to meals that are cold, undercooked, burnt, or not even
invited because the patrols could not get a fire started. We now have demos on
firebuilding and cooking (4 hours total - most of the meals in the cooking demo
are meals they have to cook during the week) on the second day.
This is my first question to the list. Are any of my esteemed list collegues
finding a lowering of standards in the basic Scouting skills. Or am I just
blessed to be in a council that has this problem. One patrol during the course
missed 4 straight meals, because they could not start a fire!!!!! Eight scouts,
1st Class or better, could not start a fire. Opinions, Comments, Suggestions.
My second question stems from the syllabus for JLTC. Has anyone had to deal
with the Communicating with Adults presentation? Do you have a problem with it?
For those of you not familar with the presentation, it is given by the
Scoutmaster near the end of the course. One of the suggestions in the syllabus
is to try and trick an adult into thinking a good idea is theirs. Now this
might work between adults in business or elsewhere, but if a fourteen year old
boy tries to pull this off.... Well far be it for me to say no one will fall
for it. Results would be preditable, embarrassment for the Scout and anger by
the Adult. Again - Opinions, Comments, Suggestions.
My last question concerns homesickness and a well worked over subject -
parental responsibility. Both of our drop outs wanted to go home several hours
after they had been at the course. Both admitted they did not want to come, but
had been forced to attend. We have very strict counseling rules and chain of
command. When a participant works his way up through the staff counseling chain
of command and becomes an adult problem he goes home. A week long training
course is not the place to deal with family, personal, global, etc. problems.
Normally, I would say alright no big deal and send them on their way. This
year, with the small staff and even fewer adults, 2-3 at the most, we really
had to schedule trips away from camp so as to not violate the two-deep rules.
After finding a time which I could go call the homesick participants parents, I
was told by both not to worry their son would get over it in a day or so!!! One
mother told me that there is no way her son could be homesick. He went to the
last National Jamboree with his father and two brothers. It took me to threaten
a call to the state police to get them to show up. I don't want to turn this
discussion into an old rehash, but I am looking for decent suggstions.
* Tim McFeely
* Ocean State FreeNet
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