Re: Drinking Policy on International Trips?
Mon, 3 Jul 1995 13:19:22 PDT
> "What should be the rules regarding drinking for U.S. Scouts and Scouters
> while on Scouting trips in other countries where the rules and customs are
> > different?"
Most (actually I know only a small number) European scouting organizations
have no rules about alcohol. But having no rules does really not mean a
tolerance for drunken children.
I think you should get a different answer depending on who is asking this
question. If you are a boy I'd say there is absolutely no excuse for getting
drunk. If you are a scouter who wants to know I'd probably say to use
your own common sense. If you are an official, I'd rather say you have
no way of knowing all circumstances ahead; don't make the rules too rigid.
Situation one is not about beer, but whether a mother on a parallel trip can
allow something to a boy which the trip leader doesn't; this is probably much
more difficult to handle then the beer situation.
Situation 2. I don't think this situation warrants a special permit, but if I'd
be that scouter I would probably take a sip anyway.
Situation 3. If you trust the host family to host the boy, they are responsible
for him and you should not punish the boy for doing what they allow him
Situation 4: I would never drink alcohol on an airplane; I hate jet lag way
too much to do anything which makes it worse. But no, I don't see a reason
to prohibit it to other grown up people.
I think when the boys are in a group (like on travel) the usual rules for
the group (no alcohol) should apply. But, on individual basis with their host,
I would accept the customs of the host. If I get to hear about alcohol use, I
would talk to the host and warn him that our boys have not learned how to
handle alcohol and might need more supervision.
From another message:
> While in France, they were (of course) offered wine with their meals --
> certainly in line with the local laws and customs. Those who accepted the
> offer were suspended from school upon their return to the U.S.
If thats a private school (or a private organization like BSA) then there is not
much I can say; they can set up their own rules, and, they are responsible
for their children. If that suspension was spoken with government authority
(like the school was city owned) this is a violation of local sovereignty, which
would not be looked at kindly by french people (or french law !). It also might
or might not violate the youth's rights depending on whether they had custody
over them at the time.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City