Re: Scoutmaster Training Certification - Lon
Jim Miller, Jr. (jmillerjr@LSFCU.ORG)
Wed, 10 May 1995 09:50:39 EST-5
Marc Solomon wrote:
>So, let's see if I understand you. You are suggesting that BSA should
>REQUIRE Scouters to get training every so many (5) years. This is the
>place I think you and I disagree. Although I feel all all Scouters SHOULD
trained, requiring Scouters to get training is a mistake! Many Scouters
>would rather quit than be FORCED into training. Scouters, for the most
>part, are volunteers. We put in the time because we feel it is important,
because we HAVE to. From that point of view, training is something we
>should want to do, not something we are being forced to do to do what we
I love the idea of mandating training. There is nothing special about the word
"volunteer." It simply means that someone is refusing to take a paycheck for a
given job - usually a job someone would have to be paid to do if there were no
volunteers. Our VOLUNTEER fire fighters are required to be trained, VOLUNTEER
EMT's staff many ambulances, VOLUNTEERS teach a lot of public health and safety
classes for the American Red Cross and are required to take (and often pay for)
training, VOLUNTEER police auxiliaries have to attend an entire police academy
for their "hobby". What makes a Scouter's job any less important than these?
Those that would quit rather than be trained simply do not take their
responsibilities seriously enough. This is not a hobby, it is a profession we
don't get a paycheck for.
>I feel that the potential for losing Scouters due to requiring them to
>receive training outways the need for requiring trained Scouters.
>needs as many volunteers (Scouters) as we can get to get the program to
>many boys as we want to reach. Surely, without trained Scouters, the
>program would not have the consistency (sp?) it has and strives for,
>without Scouters, trained or not, we would not have a program at all!
But if everyone were required to take training, we could eliminate some of that
margin. If everyone knew that part of being a leader was certification and
regular recertification, it would possibly be taken a little more seriously by
those taking on the jobs. We don't even require something as simple as Standard
First Aid and CPR for our Scoutmasters, yet we trust them with the very lives of
children on a regular basis. This is a very serious job we refuse to take money
>I know many Scouters who have not been to any formal Scout training
>Roundtables and Council Newsletters in many a year who are making a
>difference with Scouts every day. I do not want to be the one who tells
they can not work with the Scouts anymore unless they get training. Do
>not get me wrong. I will still be getting the word out to them about
>training that is available to them and urge them strongly that they
>(or teach) these events. But I do not want to be the one responsible
>FORCING them to do so (although some of them have told me that is what I
to be doing).
It's not so much forcing them to take training as it is making it a job
requirement. There are no good excuses for a leader to not be trained. Maybe we
can take away the few weak and feeble excuses that get used.
As leaders, we have an obligation to hold ourselves, and others, to a certain
level of professionalism in performing our duties. That level of professionalism
must include being properly trained to do the job. It just cannot be done
correctly and to the best of our ability without that training.
Exploring Training Chairman
Hudson Liberty Council
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City