RYAN KEIL (RYAN.KEIL@M.CC.UTAH.EDU)
Sun, 7 May 1995 21:13:04 -0600
On Thu, 4 May 1995, Richard Ickler wrote:
> Re: LDS Scouting - The biggest problem I have with the LDS program is the
> system of "calling" leaders. It very often results in good leaders but when
> poor choices are made the results seem to be worse than among regular
> troops. The one fatal outing I know of this area was with an LDS scout
> troop who did everything wrong. The only other near fatal outing I have
> heard of also involved an LDS unit where the leaders exercised such poor
> judgement that they almost lost the troop to hypothermia when they got
> caught by a late snowstorm. I don't know if it is fact or perception but
> the common feeling I have heard expressed is that most of the life
> threatening problems with troops in our council have been with LDS units.
> On the other hand, I went through Scoutmaster Fundamentals with several LDS
> leaders who made the statement that their bishop considered training so
> important that if they needed dispensation to attend Sunday training he
> would grant it.
Two thoughts about this: The first is, as has been pointed out in other
posts and can be verified with National--the LDS Church is the largest
single sponsor of Scouting programs with the most affiliated units.
Additionally, it seems to me that the Long Beach area has a significant
per capita number of LDS units. With these two facts in mind, it is easy
to understand that mishaps and attaboys among LDS units should be notable
in number and degree.
Secondly, the incident involving the youth who suffered severe frostbite
and hypothermia was not a Scouting activity. Indeed, the adult leader on
the outing was not registered with BSA. Please keep in mind that Bishops
and Branch Presidents--who are the leaders at the level where Scouting,
et al, units are formed--are permitted per Church policy to implement
additional programs to supplement the Scouting program where such extras
are of benefit to the youth in their Wards or Branches. So, when you
here about an activity of a LDS unit that went bad/good, please keep in
mind that it's just possible it wasn't a BSA-type activity.
Just my own ramblin'
PS. If someone already addressed these items, I apologise for the
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City