Re: New YPP Gotcha?
ralph romig (rwromig@PPCO.COM)
Thu, 4 May 1995 10:01:55 -0500
Mark Petrik said:
>> We really need people from 4 - 17! Youth Protection Guidlines of the
>> BSA are holding us down about who sends mail to who. It has to be youth
>> to youth, or adult to adult.
Ben Parker replied:
>I certainly don't remember this from my YPP training. While there are
>times it would be nice for the kids to be quiet, I can't imagine
>getting anything done in Scouts if adults are not allowed to talk to
>youth because of YPP rules. How will MB counseling or Boards of Review be
>I'm under the impression that the adult members of Scouts-L and
>rec.scouting, the BSA-Echo and similar electronic groups have always
>welcomed and encouraged youth members participation.
>What are or what ought to be proper YPP constraints for electronic
>communication between Scout youth and adult Scouters as regards Scouting
>matters (or any matters, if in a Scouting context)? Is there a
>difference between group discussion on 'open' forums (such as Scouts-L
>and rec.scouting) vs personal e-mail messages (private by definition).
New discussion topic coming up.
Internet email is obviously a wide open and basically unregulated form of
communication. But so is life.
It is anologous to a phone call. Phone calls may be abusive and email can
be abusive. However the receiving party can always hang up or delete the email.
There is no regulation concerning the ability of a Scout to phone a Merit
Badge Counselor, Scoutmaster, etc to confirm information, setup counselling,
Or for that matter a Scout Leader phoning a youth. What is regulated is
I also have not heard of any restriction except that communication should be
open and in public. Having a group of boys in a room surrounding a computer
screen seems to qualify as public. There is no physical contact between the
<joking mode on>
Touch in Unix means to touch a file. Finger means get the user info.
<joking mode off>
I wonder where Mark got this direction?
One of the objectives of the Scoutmaster Conference and Boards of Review are
to promote positive youth/adult interaction. Certainly email with a bunch
of concerned and involved adult Scouters should be an overall positive
There should be a bit of cautions given to the boys prior to letting them email
1. Don't give out any private personal information: ie, addresses, phone
driver's license, Social Security numbers, credit card numbers, etc.
2. Don't agree to meet the emailling party.
3. If the email is offensive, delete it and stop replying to the sender.
further email from that party.
4. Don't run any files sent via email untill they've been virus screened and
by an adult for offensive content. Don't run any shell scripts sent until a
competant programmer checks it out.
5. Don't give out account passwords to anybody.
6. Use a nickname or "handle" if the system will allow you to do so.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City