Re: Special Insignia on Uniforms (Exploring)
Settummanque, the blackeagle (waltoml@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU)
Sat, 15 Apr 1995 22:26:45 CDT
scoutpro <scoutpro@TIAC.NET> writes:
>I thought for sure that I would be able to resist the
>temptation to comment on uniforms and pins, but a recent
>comment makes me jump up.
From Kevin Woods:
> "Funny how explorers (BSA people) can wear them as part
> of their own designed uniform as EMS squads or police posts!"
>1. The issues of allowing adults (and youth for that matter)
> to wear patches/pins from other organizations on their
> (specifically EMT's and other people with special
Mike explained his rationale from the professional end of things; I'll
explain it as an Exploring volunteer and commissioner:
> My answer: As an Exploring Executive I take great
>pains to explain to one and all that Explorers are granted
>the right by the nature of their program to design a "uniform
>identity." Many (actually almost all) Explorer Post have
>chosen a specialty to base their activities around. To show
>to the world that each Explorer post has a unique program
>unlike any other post they are allowed to develop a uniform.
This, Kevin, is called a DDI, or "Distinctive Dress Identity", and is
REQUIRED of all Explorer Posts and Ships that want to obtain Quality
Unit designation. It also makes common (Scouters') sense to have all
Explorers associated with your particular Post or Ship to "dress
>Exploring is different from Boy Scouting and Cub Scouting and
>they have different uniforming regulations. In Summary: Exploring
>is not as "uniform" as the other programs.
This is extremely true with outdoor and "general interest" posts.
Some Posts wear a TEESHIRT with the name of the Post. (oh yeah; I
forgot this, Kevin: in addition to the DDI, each Post or Ship can
also give their unit a NAME; I was a part of and President of WFKE-TV
Post 294 and Commander of Fort Knox Junior Military Police Post 233.
The name appears ON THE UNIT'S CHARTER in addition to the
national/council registration number). Boy Scout and Cub Scouting
units don't have this "specialness".
> If any unit so chooses they can select a national
>uniform (Sea Exploring or Explorer Dark Green.) If they so
>choose they must follow policies in regard to what patches go
>where. As you could imagine, Sea Exploring has strict
>insignia requirements. EMT, Fire, Police and Medical Patches
>worn my Explorers identify their Chartering Organization much
>more often than what level of skill they have attained. On
>national supply division uniforms an Explorer or adult has
>two locations with flexibility, the right arm (in place of
>where Boy Scouts have patrol patches, and the right pocket -
>temporary insignia. Any insignia outside of those locations
>is just as "illegal" as if a any other member of the BSA had
The Explorer Green uniform has been used as the "default uniform" for
Posts and Ships associated with a Troop or Team. The Insignia Guide
is the Commissioner's tool to ascertain if a Post or Ship member is
wearing the proper insignia in the proper place. Like Mike said,
there's no room for "fudging" on the Sea Explorer whites, blues or the
Air Explorer blues as well as in many places on the Explorer green.
For instance, Jamboree patches MUST be worn ONE at a time and ONLY
above the right pocket; male Explorers under 18 whom are Eagle Scouts
MUST wear the Eagle patch centered on the pocket or not at all; male
Explorers over 18 MUST wear the Eagle square knot or nothing.
I led the fight for the return of the green uniform despite those that
said that "Explorers can wear the same uniform as the rest of
us...what makes *them* so special to keep this uniform?"
I would answer, "Because of the strong association with the green
uniform and the Exploring program, because it gives Explorer Posts and
Ships an viable alternative to the traditional tan and because it gives
each Explorer Post a visible link with the Boy Scouts of America
through the wearing of a similar (if nothing else but different color)
> In a real world emergency I would imagine that anyone
>with the needed skills would speak up an identify themselves.
>At many of the events I have had the opportunity to attend
>EMT's had been given a way to be identified that fit into
>the Scouting uniform (A special orange hat, a neckerchief
>with red cross), or usually they where the guys carrying
>around the really big "fishing tackle" box with the red cross
>on it. <grin>.
Jefferson County Kentucky's EMS Explorer Post (which is called, by the
way, Jefferson County Emergency Medical Services Explorer Post 911
(say THAT in one fast breath!!) ), wears the same white uniform as their
adult counterparts and a special patch with the Exploring "Big E" over
and the wording "Jefferson County Emergency Medical Services Explorer"
in red surrounding Tom Jefferson.
The folks that work there, wear the same patch sans "Big E" and
"Explorer", with black lettering.
According to a friend of mine that served as their Training Advisor,
each Explorer receives a "rocker" (a curved bar patch, like the
Jamboree's Wide Game Patch) denoting the level of training (basic,
standard, advanced, EMT-A, EMT-P) on their right shoulder, and the
state's EMT patch with the appropriate "rocker" on their left
shoulder. They don't wear a CSP, they don't wear numbers, instead,
they wear a name bar with their name and under it, the word
They are NOT mistaken for *real* EMS personnel, since the patches are
different and that large red "E" in the center of Tom Jefferson REALLY
separates them from the "real folks". However, some of the Explorers
ARE "REAL FOLKS", and are certified by the county and state to ride
and do "real stuff". In this setting, I can see *possibly* being
mistaken for a real EMS person....but come on, part of the Exploring
experience is being there, helping and assisting, and DOING THINGS.
As a kid, I envied them a lot. It was then and continue to be today
an EXCELLENT example of what Exploring is REALLY about in that
Talk about your "demostration units"!!!!
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