Justin M. Martin (jmartin@PRAIRIENET.ORG)
Sun, 9 Apr 1995 18:09:31 -0500
On Fri, 7 Apr 1995, Milt Forsberg wrote:
> At the risk of beating this subject to death, I would like to offer a few
> more comments.
No kidding.....I'm about to do it some more....
> Wearing a full uniform is important when the group is in a position to
> make an impression to others. If the uniform is not needed, then don't
> wear it. I see much concern here about wearing uniform pants on outings
> and getting them torn or stained. Why not have the boys wear regular
> clothes when participating in such activities. If you prefer to travel
> in the uniform, change out when you arrive and change back into before
> you leave for home. This way, uniforms are clean for travel and don't
> get torn up. Of course, the activity may dictate uniforming. A camporee
> or such might require uniforms during the entire weekend. At Summer
> Camp, we wear the uniform only to the evening meal, campfires, and OA
> ceremonies. If a troop wants to be "uniformed" for rugged activities,
> develop a "uniform" for those activities. It should not, however,
> be only parts of the full uniform, as the proper wearing of the full
> uniform is full and complete. The shorts/t shirt idea works well.
You have no option in wearing the uniform when you travel as a troop
somewhere. It is National Policy for all registered members traveling to
AND from a Scout function to be wearing the Full Uniform
> We do expect our members to be in full uniform for meetings. Many of the
> boys wear athletic clothing under their uniform and remove the uniform
> for games. They wear mostly shorts and a t shirt for the games. During
> the rest of the meeting they wear the uniform. This helps save the wear
> on the uniforms.
I completely agree with this. We try to encourage our boys to wear an
Activities uniform shirt under the Official Uniform shirt.
> Wearing the shirt only with whatever for pants presents a less than good
> image to the public. This is a concern since it affects us all. I still
> prefer seeing either the full uniform on or street clothes entirely.
> Maybe that is only my personal feeling.
> Many boys do not want to be seen in their uniform. If they are in a
> group, it doesn't seem to matter as much. I feel that much of the
> pressure to not wear uniform pants comes from the fact that they can go
> to meetings with a jacket on and the uniform is not noticed since they
> are wearing other type pants. The "can't afford" excuse may be just and
> only that - an excuse. I am sure there are those who cannot afford the
> pants, and this is why we need an internal exchange program for
> previously worn clothing. We cannot ban a boy from due to a lack of
> uniform, but we should help him become a complete part of the
> program by finding a way to get him into a uniform.
> I personlally do not like the uniform pants myself. I do wear them
> whenever I wear my uniform since they are part of the uniform. The
> decision was made that those pants are the ones to wear, so we should
> follow it. If we don't like them, we should pressure the National
> Office to change the style. This is a whole different issue. We can
> make an effort to avoid the pants at the expense of our image, or we can
> make an effort to change the uniform (which might benefit all of us!).
> Our policy in my troop is that when we wear the uniform, we wear it
> completely and correctly. When we don't wear it, we don't wear it or any
> part of it. Wearing part of a uniform some of the time and full uniform
> some of the time leads to confusion on the boys part as to what is to be
> worn when, and it gives the appearance that wearing only the shirt is
> acceptable maybe at times when it is not.
> Milt Forsberg
> SM, Troop 7
> Champaign, IL
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