Re: Philmont phone OK?
Bill Euerle (wjeuerle@CECI.MIT.EDU)
Tue, 4 Apr 1995 09:59:52 EDT
John Macko wrote:
>After 90 minutes of dialing, I finally got through and was able to
>confirm a reservation for 1996. There has got to be a better way.
Well, if anyone can come up with one, I'd certainly like to hear it.
I'm reasonably certain the bigwigs at Philmont would like to hear it
as well (even after having been repeatedly told this summer that the
lottery system was here to stay.)
As a ranger at Philmont this past summer, I heard a significant amount
of complaining about the lottery system, and that was from the people
who got in! Most of the suggestions I heard were either scrap it and
return to the phone-in system (which I also heard alot of complaints
against), or make it more complex, by weighting it in favor of groups
that got lotteried out the previous year.
Bob Haar suggested:
>How's this for a suggestion - maybe each reservation at Philmont
>should be limited to a single crew. I have heard of cases in our
>area where several troops go together, with each one requesting a
>reservation for a group big enough for all the troops, Then they
>split up the one with the best timing and default on the others. A
>one reservation = one crew rule would eliminate this kind of
I don't think that this solves much of anything. If 4 troops band
together to get 4 crews, the worst you get is that you have 4 poeple
calling Philmont, so they do have a better chance of getting through,
but you don't have any extra people going to Philmont. And there is
nothing to prevent 1 troop from having 4 people calling. In addition,
for troops coming from long distances (i.e my troop here in
Massachusetts), there are cost advantages to travelling in larger
groups in goining to Philmont. Finally, this rule hurts
troops/council contigents that really do have more than 1 crew.
I'm not sure I have a solution to the problem (someone care to
purchase another 100,000 acres of land adjoining Philmont and donate
it to the BSA?), but I don't think this one will help.
Philmont Ranger '91, '94
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