Where the Guide Came from
Sarah Jones (sarah.jones@SAWASDI.APANA.ORG.AU)
Fri, 31 Mar 1995 20:06:40 +0930
Sorry if this gets long winded, but I just want to give a breif rund down on
how The gils became known as Guides, and thought that it may be of interest to
the whole list....
Also, be please realize that for sanity sakes, I am taking the below stright
out of the Australian Girl Guide Hand book.......and I quote...
When the boys had the big rally in 1909 at Crystal Palace. This was when BP had
his first reveiw of the interest of Boy Scouting and at the end of the 11,000
boys, there was a handfull of Girls, annoucing that they were girl Scouts.
Well, BP decided that as he was really to busy organizing the Boy Scouts to
organize the girls (who were all sisters of the boys who were in scouting.) So
with the help of his Sister, Miss Angas Banden Powell, the girl Guides were
started in 1910. His sister was the first President.
The name "Guides", rther than "Scouts" was taken from a famous Indian Regiment
"The Khyber Guides" who were always ready for anything, no matter how
However, in the USA and other countries infulanced by them at the time, they
weere called Girl Scouts. That is how we came to have Girl Guides and Girl
end of quote......
As to the part I mentioned the other day, that can be found in (from Memory)
"Window on my Heart" By Lady Olave Baden Powell, and it is a good book. It also
revels how upset BP was that they had decided to be Girl Scouts as he thought
that mabye it woulod detract from the whole idea of being one organization.
However, after hearing why, he decided that mabye it was in their best
interests, although, I think he thought they should just stuck their thumbs up
their noses at the whole lot (at least that is the way I read it)
I also read in the New Zealand Guide handbook (and mabye Anne will back me on
this, I hope!) that the Grils in New Zealand were called Girl Peace Scouts,
untill 1923 when they changed their name to Girl Guides, and as to the reason
why they were Scouts instead, I am unsure about. However, I do know itwas not
because of what was happening in the USA. New Zealand actually had the girls
organized back in 1908 The same time the boys themselves were getting started.
If anyone else whats more info about New Zealand, pleas direct Questions to
Anne. She is after all on training team there and woud know more about their
history tha I wouls sitting here a few thousand miles away.
Hope this helps everyone....
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