Re: Snipe Hunts (Better Things)
Gary Sherwin (sherwin@SUNSHINE.PGH.WEC.COM)
Thu, 23 Mar 1995 08:10:47 EST
Jack, Byron, Stephen, Wendy, Jeff, Alan et al:
Alan Houser <troop24@EMF.NET> writes:
>Jack Finnerty <finnerty@CAPACCESS.ORG> writes:
>>Many boys introduce new scouts into "snipe hunting" on one of the first
>>outings. An ASM in a local troop here in Fairfax, VA put the following
>Sorry, Jack, but snipe hunts are no longer permitted. They fall under
>the definition of hazing.
>It can be difficult to convince your boys that something that they went
>through when they joined cannot be done anymore, but they must realize
>that times have changed and the rules have changed. I had to convince
>my Scouts that the troop would be thrown out of camp if they did not give
>up their "initiation" (and it would have). As an adult leader, you are
>charged with making sure that the rules are followed or you may be
My limited personal experience and training cause me to say that
prohibitions have their place when it comes to Youth Protection. That
is what we are talking about, isn't it? We must be carefull not to
play word games which permit abusive situations to develop. The statement,
"Many boys introduce new scouts into "snipe hunting" on one of the first
outings." is very telling. Draw your own conclusions.
As per Alan's observation, "It can be difficult to convince your boys
that something that they went through when they joined cannot be done
anymore....". Alan, I agree with you but would offer the observation
that more mature alternatives are very effective at replacing prohibited
behavior. Please refer to my mis-subjected "herwin" posting for examples
I would reference it, but I lost it, oops.
Remember, as scout leaders, it is our job to be managers of learning.
That is to construct situations that will lead to the learning of usefull
skills in a fun way. With very little imagination, it isn't hard to do.
Just remember your purpose, and your Youth Protection Guidelines.
I used to be an Eagle NE-V-19-20
Eagle Scout Class of 1967
Vigil-Wagion Lodge 6
(Mr.) Gary W. Sherwin SM
Troop 461 Yukon, Pa.
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