Re: Troop Problem with Webel
Bob Condon (rec@EPOCH.COM)
Tue, 7 Mar 1995 10:33:14 -0500
> Here's what I've encountered so far:
I find it necessary to respond from the SM standpoint now.
I know this will create a lot of mail and it is not meant
to, but from one burnt out puppy, you need to see the other
side of the story.
We are, for the first time, looking at the program and the program size.
I will look at this tonight at the committee meeting.
We have a calendar for the year in August and it is distributed. At this
point, I send the asbestos letter (too hot to handle) which requires parents
to sign up instead of waiting for each campout. The parents can plan
From there, the new leadership is working with the new boys throughout the
fall. The new leadership is just getting going in Sept/Oct to lead the
new boys, teach camping to the young guys so they feel comfortable.
This is not a time to bring in Webelos (IMHO).. it is too disruptive.
I would never bring the webelos on winter events (outdoor camping). We did,
one year plan an extra cabin trip to include them in January at scout camp
and it worked out well.
The spring (mar1 ->) is when the Webelos are invited in to our meetings
(unannounced or announced, we do not care) and they will be
integrated into the meetings.
> 1) We don't want to take any more Webelos for now.
We now have 30 boys. I have had requests now for over 22 additional
boys to join right now. Our quality programs and very fine leadership
is our best advertisement. Do you ruin what you have to feed the masses
or do you maintain your quality program by not overflowing the system.
That will be my question tonight.
> 2) You're only a first year group, call us in January next year and we can talk
They are dealing with the immediate problem of the 2nd year webelo and this
is just overflowing the stack.
> 3) You're moving too fast for these boys...wait until next September or October
> to introduce them to Boy Scouts.
Same as (2)
> 4) You've got too many boys ... we couldn't possibly take them all.
Same as (1)
How can you help in this situation?
Is there a parent that will automatically transfer with all these
kids, that will be an ASM specifically dedicated to their needs?
This may make all the difference in the world.
---- In Cub SCouts,
I cut off the big push by parents to have their kids
join our den. I build a den of 8 boys as I knew
this was my limitation for this age group.
I had many parents and the Cubmaster try to
force kids onto us. This becomes frustrating
when you find that none of the parents will be
willing to help out.
Best of luck finding a spot. It sounds like
there are too few leaders for too many boys.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City