Re: Co-ed Scouting
Rodger Morris (rlm@SUNED1.NSWSES.NAVY.MIL)
Wed, 1 Mar 1995 18:48:37 PST
>Rodger Morris, firstname.lastname@example.org furthered offered particuarly
>cogent and insightful discussion on this issue. When I opened up this
>discussion this time around, I was unaware of the fiscal restraints put on by
>grants and such. Real important to keep that in focus. I was looking it more
>from an administrative stand point seeing a duplication of work and
>One issue that I would like to clarify from my initial suggestion is that I
>was asking if it would be possible to combine Boy and Girl Scouting. I was
>looking to see if it would be possible to combine the programs since they
>both have very valuable components.
When I was a District Paraprofessional in 1976, I was told that there had
been two joint studies by the BSA and GSUSA concerning a possible merger
into a unified Scouting association. The programmatic differences were not
considered to be a real problem. What _was_ seen as a "showstopper" was the
fact that both studies concluded that roughly 30% of the professional
Scouters/Girl Scouts could be let go without adversely impacting the
servicing of the units, districts and councils.
The professionals in both organizations reacted in a manner akin to that of
one who has just discovered a real vampire (i.e., brandished a religious
symbol at the study and shouted, "Back into the pit, you foul fiend!!",
whilst looking for a sharp stake to drive through its heart).
The differing professional corporate cultures were also an issue. An entry
level BSA District Executive earned about $8,000/annum for a 55-60 hour
workweek, which did not include travel time to and from field work at the
start and finish of the workday. Their GSUSA equivalents, Field Directors,
earned about $6,000/annum for a 30 hour workweek, which _did_ include that
The opinion of the Field Director in our Service Area at the time was that
she wanted the same pay as the men if the movements joined, but that she
would not work more than 30 hours per week for that pay. She also felt that
men were inherently incapable of competently administering a program for
girls, that women were inherently capable of administering a program for
boys, and that female Scouting professionals would be discriminated against
in any merger of the BSA and the GSUSA. These opinions may or may not have
been representative of those of the majority of the GSUSA professionals, and
I offer them as unsupported hearsay and without editorial comment.
I am certain that other studies have taken place in the past two decades,
but I have no direct knowledge that they have.
Yours in Scouting,
Rodger Morris, email@example.com
Assistant Scoutmaster, Troop 852, Ventura County Council (CA), BSA
National Woodbadge 416, Philmont, 1973
"I used to be a Beaver..."
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City