Re: Tiger Cubs and Belt Loops
Jim Miller, Jr. (jmillerjr@LSFCU.ORG)
Tue, 21 Feb 1995 10:06:38 EST-5
Kathie Cervany <kathie@EECS.NWU.EDU> wrote:
>First, the Tiger Cub program is SEPARATE from the pack and functions
>totally separate. It has never meant to be, nor is it ever to be a
>part of the pack program. Why? The stats are just now coming in, but
>is is strongly showing that we LOSE the boys after the bear year is
>the Tiger Cub program is NOT handled as written, separately. Of
>course, there always exceptions.
We must remember that this assumes that Packs are run the way "the book"
says they are run. I don't know of a single pack that has Den meetings
in my Council. I don't know if all urban areas face the same
difficulties, but I'd guess that they do. Around here, Packs/dens
function very similarly to troops/patrols. My brother, a Bobcat ('till
he finishes those last four req,'s) is in a Pack that meets weekly.
There are no Den meetings outside of Pack meetings because bringing six
kids into your 3 room apartment is a quite a challenge for many Leaders.
The tiger group meets twice a month in the same place as the pack, but
runs their own program in another part of the room. They only act as a
part of the pack for Opening and Closing ceremonies.
Sometimes I wonder if the National Office and its employees have a bit
too much lawn and yard around them to understand the program as it is
applied in urban areas. I know this isn't the case. My grandfather, a
Scoutmaster all through WWII, tells me the program has never been kind
to urban Scouting even when the National Office was in NYC/NJ.
>Tiger Cubs do NOT earn belt loops. That is the Cub Scout program and
>is part of the Cub Scout SPORTS program, not Tiger Cubs.
>Sorry to hear that your council trading post staff can't keep the
>programs straight. However, you do a disservice to the entire Tiger
>Cub program, and the evidence supports this, if you do not work it as
The programs, as written, do not work for everyone. I wish they would,
but until then, the flexibility the program allows it to be used in a
way that will work for everyone.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City