Maj Jon Danner (dannerjm@C-17IGP.WPAFB.AF.MIL)
Thu, 9 Feb 1995 11:11:25 -0500
I have an interesting situation that just developed for my Troop, and I
would like to tap the philosophical and practical resources of the list. I
need to provide a brief background and then the current situation.
I am the Scoutmaster of a small Troop (20 boys) associated with a
medium-sized Catholic parish in a minor metropolitan area. I have to say
"associated" because, unlike all the other Scouting units (1 Cub pack and 4
GS troops) we are NOT chartered by the parish. Seventeen years ago, there
was a major falling out between the Troop and the parish. A local Knights
of Columbus council rescued the Troop, picking up the charter (and the Troop
number) from the parish. The details of the schism are long and I will not
go into that.
Six years ago, relations between the Troop and the parish began to warm.
The parish constructed a building for all Scouting activities and invited
the Troop back to hold their activities on parish grounds. We retained the
Knights as our charter organization because the parish could not provide the
storage for our camping gear, and the Knights could not "donate" the space
without some official connection to the Troop. Three years ago, we got a
new pastor in the parish who strongly encourages youth progams and is an
avid support of BSA. In return, the Troop has become very visible in the
community. Most of the boys belong to the parish and the community at large
recognizes us as the parish Troop.
Now we get to the problem. The pastor wants to bring the Troop back under
the parish umbrella for several reasons. First, although we technically
belong to the Knights, the general public views us a belonging to the parish
and would go to the pastor about anything involving the Troop and won't buy
the answer they don't belong to me. He needs some measure of control.
Second, the Troop has done a lot for the parish and he would like to help
provide for the Troop financially. For the cost of enrollment of each
family in the youth progams, the parish will pick up BSA registration and
all operating expenses for the Troop. Third, the pastor is trying to
consolidate management of ALL youth activities into one body.
Unfortunately, this governing body is the same one that chewed us up and
spit us out 17 years ago.
We are reluctant to lose the Knights as our charter because of the storage
space they provide (the parish still cannot provide storage) and because
they served us well this past 17 years. Parish sponsorship is attractive
because of the financial resources they have offered us, but we do not wish
to offend the Knights.
One solution is to have both organizations charter us. My DE told me he
does not know of any policy or regulation PROHIBITING dual chartering, but
he never heard of it before. Dual chartering would give us the financial
support of the parish and the logistic support of the Knights. Now for my
Will National accept a dual-chartered Troop?
As anyone had a similar situation?
What problems might lie ahead from this joint venture?
How do we keep from offending the Knights?
How do we overcome the reservations of dealing with the organization that
abused us 17 years ago?
Sorry for the lenghty dissertation. Please respond before Monday, 13 Feb.
That is when our committee will discuss the situation and respond to the
Maj Jon Danner DSN 785-0777 ext 4370
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