Re: Limit on Dist. Events
Settummanque, the blackeagle (waltoml@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU)
Wed, 8 Feb 1995 00:51:19 CDT
Cliff Golden <C60DJK1@MVS.CSO.NIU.EDU> writes:
>I have a question to raise.
>It has been stated that no District Event shall be scheduled within
>2 months of a Council Event. I don't feel that we are scheduling
>too many District level events, There are 4 for Cubs, 3 for Scouts
>and one including both.
What is your Council defining as an "Council event"? Is the Council
Recognition Dinner considered a "council event"? Is the Scouting for
Food event considered a "council event" (I consider it one, but some
Councils consider it a "district event"). How about meetings?
Most Councils put on two Council-level events a year. One in the late
summer to kick off the new year, and the other in late Janurary to
kick off the SME/FOS campaign. Some Councils host a Scout show or
fair in April or May and of course, all Councils do summer camps.
>This is not coming from the grass roots but rather from the council
>hierarchy. Is this a national trend, or just our local council's
>actions? How many annual events do most other districts sponsor?
>I plan to call our Council Exec. to find out more on the reasoning
>behind this. In the meantime I would appreciate your input.
I posted this earlier in response to another inquiry along those same
Yes, it is a National trend, and it has to do with "event control".
Councils lost the ability to emass large numbers of Scouts for events
because volunteers at the District level insisted on having as many
events in their District as possible. This created a "us-them"
situation whereby if the District was not a part of the planning or
implementation of the Council event, nobody would show (and the
Council would take a loss). So, the BSA is trying to "force"
Districts to participate in Council events by limiting the number of
District events to a few (four in most Councils) and by emphasizing
that they belong to a local Council and NOT just to a District.
Field Executive's "critical acheivements" lists are being modified to
add the percentage of their units participating in Council-level
events and each professional is placed in "charge" or on a "team" to
create or stage Council-level events (the latter isn't new, just that
there's a new emphasis on doing this. In some larger Councils, the
Field Directors and others at the Council office were placed in charge
of such large-scale events).
I took a look at your list, and came up with a couple of alternatives
that may help you to meet your four event goal:
>1. Webelos Overnight (c) Sept 5. Spring Camporee (s) May
>2. District Pinewood Derby (c) Mar 6. Klondike Derby (s) Febire
>3. Cub-o-Ree (c) MayMe) 7. Fall Camporee (s) Oct
>4. Cub'n'Family Picnic (c) June * 8. Scouting for Food (c)(s) Mar
* Scouting for Food is usaully an coordinated Council event, not a
District event. (b)=Boy Scouts (c)=Cub Scouts
Your District Pinewood Derby can be incorporated into your Cub 'n'
Family Picnic and held earlier, like in late April or early May. The
Pinewood Derby is a favorite amoung professionals because they can
bring potential partners out to the mall or wherever and point and say
things like "this is what Cub Scouting is all about: Family".
Your WEBELOS Overnight can also be incorporated into your Fall
Camporee. Move the Spring Camporee and the Cub-o-Ree to the same
weekend and your've got four events:
Fall Camporee (s) and WEBELOS Overnight (c) Sep
Klondike Derby (s) Feb
Spring Camporee (s) and Cub-O-Ree (c) May
Cub 'n' Family Picnic (c) and District Pinewood Derby (c) Apr
The dates for each group of events can be moved up or back...I would
move the Fall Camporee/Overnight to October and the Klondike Derby to
either March or December. The Picnic and Derby I would have problems
with since moving both to June may be in the way of Summer camp and
moving it back to March may be too cold to have a picnic outside
(which can be a challenge...ever had a picnic indoors? Its a blast
and no ants! *grinning*)
Hope this helps out !
Settummanque, the blackeagle... (MAJ) Mike L. Walton (
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