Re: BOR & ASM's
Settummanque, the blackeagle (waltoml@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU)
Tue, 7 Feb 1995 19:44:04 CDT
Murphy Peter <MurphyP@RND3.INDY.TCE.COM> writes:
>Rick, Mike, and all,
>I plan to join the Troop committee in the outdoors/activities seat but I
>will remain CM of the Pack for a few years yet (my youngest starts Tiger Cubs
>this fall and then there's one in the middle). Since my primary registration
>will be as CM, does that mean I wear that uniform (blue loops and shoulder
>patch) at all times? Or do I wear a Troop specific uniform to Troop
You are *supposed to wear* the blue shoulder loops and Cubmaster
patch. However, you *can* choose to wear the Troop Committee patch
instead of the Cubmaster patch when you are doing Troop stuff. The
blue shoulder loops stay, though...because that's your PRIMARY
You are sure to get comments about "not wearing the right loops" from
some, particularily knuckleheaded Scouters that don't realize that the
loops identify where you have PAID membership at, and NOT to
distinguish programs from each other. All you have to do is to show
the Cubmaster patch (on your shoulder or from inside your pocket) and
that should take care of it.
>What about merit badge counselors? I've read the pamphlet on being a
>merit badge counselor. Is there any other required or suggested training?
>Besides the usual adult registration form is there a MB counselor
>registration form? Does the Troop find all of its MB counselors within the
>Troop or does the district/council maintain a roster to choose from?
Depends on the way your local Council does the MB counselor listing.
In addition to the BSA registration form, and approval, there *may* be
a separate MB counselor interest form that they may ask you to
complete for the purpose of putting together a listing of counselors
and the merit badges that they are counsellors for.
Training for MB counselors is supposed to come in the form of the MB
Counselors Workshop, which is done on either a District or Council
basis by the Council's Advancement Committee.
Most Troops and Teams have their own listing of MB Counselors,
developed using the Troop Interest Survey form or by personal contact
and interest. Those Counsellors are to be registered too, if their
cards are to be verified by the Council office. In other places, the
District/Council list are complied by the unit listings.
>I haven't asked my Troop because I know none of the committee and the
>SM have NOT been to training. The SM has been doing the job for years
>and I know he's a good guy. But I'm afraid he's a little lax in BOR
>staffing and accepting any adult's signing off on a MB. The Unit Commissioner
>serves as the ASM and I'm sure he's trained and knowledgeable.
He may get a rude awakening when in a routine review of those cards,
the Registrar contacts him and tells him that due to the fact that the
MB Counsellor for several merit badges are NOT registered with the
local Council, the advancement for several youth are invalid or will
have to be verified with new MB counselors approved by the Council.
It's happening now...so you might want to tell your SM that and tell
him that he needs to stop letting just any old person sign those
>My wife hasn't decided where to register next year. She finishes 4 years
>as a den/Webelos leader soon, she's on district Cub training staff, she's
>asst. chair for Pow Wow next year. She hopes to attend CST and TtT
>this Spring and CS Wood Badge in the Summer. (I've been invited
>also but doubt we both can work it in the same year.) Our ideas include
>Tiger Cub partner (she's never done it and this is her last chance), Tiger
>Cub Coach, Den Leader Coach (the pack's never had one), or a Troop
>position since she loves the outings. The Troop's never had any female
>leaders and as you might gather she's rather outgoing. How will the older
>boys who don't know her already through CS accept her? Anyone have
>any words of wisdom/advice?
Den Leader Coach is a valuable position in any Pack. This is the
person that coaches the new and inexperienced Den Leaders...I did it
for three years, and found it a really neat job. In addition to doing
District Roundtable things, I also got to work on a rotating basis
with each of the four Den Leaders and their assistants, and therefore
getting everyone on the same "sheet of music" each month. I was also
those second or third "pairs of hands" that many (any!) Den Leader
needs from time to time.
Then after the Den Leader Coach experience, then it's time to serve as
Troop Committemember in the Troop.....she'll do fine with the boys.
The adults...well...let's just say that some of us guys really need to
GROW UP AND GET A LIFE. With time, they'll accept her as herself and
NOT as your wife.
>Boy, after 5 years of Scouts it looks like the fun is just beginning and
>our schedule is going to get even busier.
That's part of the game. Pete!
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