Re: BOR & ASM's
Jim Miller, Jr. (jmillerjr@LSFCU.ORG)
Tue, 7 Feb 1995 08:00:03 EST-5
Rick Clements wrote:
>BSA policy says that Scoutmasters and Asst. can't serve on the board of
>review. I can understand why the Scoutmaster isn't on the board; they
>signed of the Scoutmaster's confrence. But why the ASM?
AFAIK, the ASM's are excluded because of how closely they work with the
boys, CM's should be more impartial. Another benefit of having CM's do
BOR's is that they can evaluate the performance of the unit leaders
through the boys' responses.
>Before I was part of the troop, they signed most people up as ASM.
>Then, they discovered that they had no one for the BOR. So, at
>recharter they listed the ASM's are committee members. I am the
>committee member that works with the new boy patrol and the troop
>guide. This seams to meet the requirements but not their intent.
I agree. The object would be that those who actually do the work with
the boys, or sign-off the requirements, are not the ones who perform the
>When I took Scoutmaster's Fundementals, they said not to register too
>many ASM's. That seams to imply that what our troop is doing is
>correct. But every time there is a discussion about BOR's, it still
>feels like we are playing a name game.
>I'm planning to start a discussion on several points about the way we
>do BOR's. (The biggest problem is untrained committee members who try
>to retest the boys.) I want to clear on who SHOULD be on the BOR.
There should be one Committee member whose primary job on the committee
is that of advancement. It should be his/her job to assemble a BOR of
qualified people. Having your committee trained can be a tremendous help
not only to the advancement process, but in taking some jobs off of the
unit leaders. Most unit leaders end up doing jobs (advancement, finance)
that should be handled by the committee.
>On a releated point, I dug out my notes from training. I found two
>different answers to the question of who can be on the BOR. The first
>answer was they must be a registered Scouter. The other answer was
>they must be registered with our troop. We have several people who are
>active members of our committee, but they are registered with a pack
>and not our troop. Are they legal?
First, the Troop Committee is a seperate entity from the Pack Committee
even when exactly the same people are on it. If they are active on your
committee, they should be registered with the Troop as Committee members
(position code MC on the adult application). If they have a primary
registration elsewhere, most Councils only charge a small paperwork fee
for multiple registrations (my council charges $0.50). This should avoid
any questions about the status of these people.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City