Re: Black Sea Scout Trip
Rodger Morris (rlm@SUNED1.NSWSES.NAVY.MIL)
Fri, 23 Dec 1994 11:32:52 PST
>On Thu, 22 Dec 1994, Tom Turba x6774 wrote:
>> Subj: Openings for U.S. Scouts to Visit Black Sea Area of Eastern Europe
>> It currently appears that there will be room for approximately eight (8)
>> out-of-council Scouts on this trip. Youth participants must be between the
>> ages of 13 and 21. Female Explorer Scouts are eligible and encouraged to
>> participate. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Since you are going to camp with Bulgarian Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts is
>there some reason that US GIRL SCOUTS are not eligible, but FEMALE
>EXPLORER SCOUTS are eligible? Or is this part of the 3G's I keep hearing
>about, but haven't fully figured the Girl part out yet? Just wondering.
Let's not kill the messenger, Bob. Tom did not originate this event, nor is
he in charge of the policies set for the event. Thus, it is both witless and
fruitless to berate him.
<NOW HEAR THIS!!: THE CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM LAMP IS NOW LIT> <GRIN>
As a constructive criticism, rather than continue your unsuccessful attempt
at clumsy and unwarranted sarcasm in this forum against one who has
performed a service for you and your Girl Scouts, I suggest that you contact
your local GSUSA council office and have them find out for you if this World
Organization of the Scout Movement (WOSM) event is also a World Association
of Girl Guides and Girl Scouts (WAGGGS) sanctioned event. If it is, then
there is already a GSUSA approved and established procedure in place for you
and your Girl Scouts to participate in this event. If such a procedure
exists, use it and then thank Tom Turba for letting you know of this
opportunity when the GSUSA failed to do so.
If the event is not sanctioned by WAGGGS, you may contact the Bulgarian
Scouts through WOSM in Geneva, Switzerland, and find out what their policies
are in re Girl Scout and Girl Guide participation. Presuming that they allow
Girl Scout unit participation (I find this highly likely), then you can
organize your own Troop wider opportunity per established GSUSA procedures.
Either way, you are in Tom Turba's debt for letting you know about the
activity in time for you to take appropriate and effective action.
Your flaming of Tom in this forum was completely inappropriate and uncalled for.
<THE CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM LAMP IS NOW OUT>
As an afterthought, if I were in charge of this event and you were to
pugnaciously approach me as you have approached Tom Turba, I would
courteously invite your Girl Scouts and their other adult leaders to
participate. You, I would courteously invite to remain behind in the USA.
When I was a Girl Scout adult in the 1970s, we taught our Scouts that
courtesy in all things went a long way towards helping people get along with
one another. Has this teaching of the GSUSA fallen so far into desuetude as
your posting indicates? I hope not.
Please go back and read Tom's posting, your reply to that posting, this
posting, and then sit down and write Tom a nice thank you note and apologize
for flaming him. It is the Scoutlike thing to do.
I wish you and yours, including your Girl Scouts, a very merry Christmas and
all the best in the new year.
Yours in Scouting,
Rodger Morris, firstname.lastname@example.org
Scoutmaster, Troop 852, Ventura County Council, BSA
National Woodbadge 416, Philmont, 1973
"I used to be a Beaver..."
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