Webelos patrols -repl
Steve Beluch (steve.beluch@SYSLINK.MCS.COM)
Wed, 21 Dec 1994 18:26:52 LCL
J>Jim Van Hecke wrote:
J>>Does the Cub Scout Program allow/encourage/facilitate changing the
J>>nomenclature to meet your desires? Are you going to change the
J>>the Cub Scout Promise, etc? Why do you feel the need to change those
J>> If everyone changes the program to meet their individual desires,
J>then we no
J>>longer have a program, just a bunch of somewhat similar groups.
J>I have to agree with Jim on this. I also feel compelled to add that I
J>feel every time we try to make Cubs more Scout-like we are doing a
J>disservice to both programs.
J>I guess it's just a prejudice of mine that Cub Leaders should be doing
J>all they can to encourage their boys to go into Boy Scouting because
J>of its differences, not remove the differences by altering the Cub
Wait a minute folks, I think you've lost sight of actual objective here.
First no one is changing or altering the program! Second no one is
making the Cubs more "scout-like" or removing the differences between
them and the Boy Scouts. AND NO ONE said anything about changing the
Laws, the Oath, the color of the uniform or the name of the program!
Giving the Webelos a separate identity IS part of the program. That's
why they are called WEBELOS. Not Cubs not Boy Scouts, WEBELOS and what
the program DOES do, is encourage a Webelos to Scout transition. The
Webelos Scout IS not a Cub Scout, they are a Webelos! They HAVE a
separate program from the Wolf and Bear. Yet they are NOT boy scouts.
It IS the responsibility of the Webelos leader (especially the 5th
grade) to prepare these boys for the Arrow of Light. And if you look at
the arrow of light and compare them to the tenderfoot requirements guess
what you'll find? Webelos are encouraged to attend troop functions (its
an AOL requirement) and some dens are even invited to some troop's
outings. Its called the Carrot and string. You let them see what's
With the New Scout Patrol concept, if you follow this program, new
Webelos and/or boys enter together and remain together for one year
while striving for the First Class rank. Now if we look at what we can
do to help these Webelos get there, getting an "identity" will start the
ball rolling. It separates them from the Cubs with out separating them
from the Pack. Second those troops who usually have a good membership,
and transition will usually have an active association with a Webelos
Den(s) and have a ASM assigned as the Webelos Resource Person. Doing
just what the program is DESIGNED to do -- Prepare the Webelos Scout for
No, don't look at this as disservice to either the scout or the program.
The goal is retention and if you correctly prepare a boy for what's
ahead rather then surprise him it will be much easier for him. Let me
put it another way. Lets take a drive up a very steep and winding road,
what would give YOU more anxiety, doing it on a bright sunny day with a
full car of friends or all alone on a dark rainy night? Its the same
for an 11 year old, HE would like to see what's ahead too. He feels
safe therefore he can accomplish more.
While I have to agree there are those out there with their own agenda,
the Webelos to Scout Transition works if given the chance. That's the
real objective here. Using a den name, visiting a troop, even earning
the AOL is a means to an end:
Getting the boy into a troop and then keeping him there.
Steve Beluch - Des Plaines Valley Council
Direct E-Mail: steve.beluch@SYSLINK.mcs.com
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