Re: BSA:Women at camp
Christopher L. Rankin (CRANKIN@JCVAXA.JCU.EDU)
Tue, 6 Dec 1994 23:58:11 -0500
> What do others think about too many parents at camp?
> Or too many adults, parents or leaders?
It all depends upon the way you look at it and what this mass of adults
does. Do they only sit around the fire with their coffee mugs and sierra cups
drinking coffee and BS'ing all day, or do they help with the program-- i.e.
making sure enough supervision is where it ought to be, sharing with a work
load (in service projects, etc., etc.), and training? I've had experience with
both types-- one hurts the program, and the other helps it immensely.
Early each summer (mid May) we take an overnight camping trip to one of
Pennsylvania's state parks (Kinzua Bridge, for all you Pennsylvanians-- it
truly is a wonderful place). This trip is usually quite large-- we've had
years where there have been 70+ in attendance (we invite a few Webelos dens,
along with their parents, to come with us). By the end of lunch Saturday (we
leave early Saturday morning for the trip), you can tell (a) whether or not the
trip will be successful in terms of accomplishing all our advancement and
skills goals and (b) which adults will help with the program and which won't.
Amazingly enough, 9 times out of 10 the adults that don't help out are the
ones with the biggest coffee mugs! ;-) I'm not trying to lump *every* person
who fits this category with these actions (I have a pretty big mug myself, but
I know when it's appropriate to use it.....), but it seems as though we always
have some sort of minimum percentage of parents who don't seem to pick up on
the program right away.
What does this have to do with having too many adults? Obviously, we as
adults set the example for the scouts to follow. If they see us standing
around doing practically nothing all the time, what message does that send
them? And if too many of the adults going along are like this, what outcome
does that bring the campout? The danger of having adults outnumber scouts
(which has happened a few times) is that it becomes increasingly likely that
you'll get many of the adults with too much free time on their hands that they
don't know what to do with-- so they waste it standing by the fire drinking
coffee and shooting the breeze instead of running the program.
Just my $.02 worth on the subject........
Christopher L. Rankin CRANKIN@JCVAXA.JCU.EDU
Assistant Scoutmaster: Box 1387, John Carroll University
T-7, French Creek Council University Heights, OH 44118
T-620, Greater Cleveland Council (216) 397-5100
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