Re: do we expel him?
Settummanque, the blackeagle (waltoml@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU)
Fri, 25 Nov 1994 11:47:59 CST
John Monahan <YB50@MUSIC.FERRIS.EDU> writes:
>I need some help on a serious behavior issue.
>Our troop has a young man ready to have his LIFE BoR and the troop
>leadership is wrestling with the behavior he has been exhibiting for
>several months now.
Why several months, John? This seems to me to encompass several
events that would normally get a Scout in one of my Troops a trip home
and a meeting called with his parents to see if this is a Scouting
issue (not being challenging enough for him), a medical problem (in
which I would have to refer him to someone that can help him and his
folks to control disruptive behaviors) or simply a misbehavior
problem (in which I would have to ask the parents to keep him home
until such time they feel that he can perform better within a small
(description deleted for space only; please note, John, as others have
posted here, that PAINTBALL is one of those activities that the BSA
DOES NOT APPROVE OF and is not an activity that should be done during
BSA activities or events. Period. Units that do, if anything happens
(as in this case), LOSE protection from any adverse action that the
BSA normally can provide. They can ALSO LOSE their charter to
operate, at the discretion of the local Council Executive. This is
something that you need to bring up to your Troop's Committee and
to the boys of your Troop...and then STOP participating in paintball.)
>The dilemma we face is: should we continue to bend the rules for this
>boy and hope that his actions do not become increasingly more violent
>and disruptive or do we mandate that his parents come with him to all
>troop functions or (as the parents of the boy shot have indicated) get
>rid of him or else. The boy who was shot has also been roughed up by
>this boy on more than one occasion, always apologetic afterwards but ??
What *are* the rules, John? If your Troop has definate, written
policies concerning behavior, I would go with those rules and carry
them out. This is the most consistant route to go. The Scout Oath
and Law are great "overall rules", but specific guidelines need to be
in place to prevent your Troop Committe (or yourself) from appearing
to favor one instance and one set of parents/Scouts over another
situation and another set of parents/Scouts. If you can look back
here in our archives, we've talked about what should/should not be in
those "codes of behaviors".
If you have no "codes of behavior", then the next course of action I
would move toward is a meeting with the parents of the Scout along
with the Senior Patrol Leader of the Troop (as the "true leader"
of your Troop). At this meeting, you need to explain why his behavior
is inconsistant with Scouting (or behavior you expect from Scouts).
You can also state at this meeting that the parents of the boy he shot
is asking you to expel their son and THIS IS ONE OF THE AVENUES YOU
ARE LOOKING AT. Together, you need to come to an consensus as to what
would happen in the next occurance of "misbehavior". If you come to
the consensus that the Scout is expelled, then THAT IS WHAT YOU NEED
I wouldn't involve the parents of/or the other Scout in this meeting,
because you would get very little agreed upon without a lot of stares
and shouting between parents (and possibly between Scouts).
The next course of action would be with all of the Troop members,
explaining to them that a serious incident has happened. The incident
should NOT be explained (mainly because most of the Scouts, despite
your information that they don't know, ALREADY know about it...from
one or both sides at school or play). Together, you need to explain
what "Scout behavior" is, and you should be able to come up with a
draft "code of behavior" that can be modified during your Patrol
Leaders' Council meeting and even more with the Troop's Committee.
Once that's approved, like someone said when we talked about this
before, you need to make sure that PARENTS AND SCOUTS get a copy of
the Code, and that you have a meeting with the parents to explain the
new Code and its enforcement.
AND YOU NEED TO STICK WITH THE CODE AND NOT DEVIATE FROM IT.
>It has been suggested and generally approved that the BoR should either
>be postponed until he exhibits the true Scouting spirit or held and not
>allow the advancement to LIFE until he has exhibited Scout spirit. I am
>trying to get some assistance on this before Monday 11/21 when a special
>committee meeting has been scheduled to hear this issue with Disctrict
>and sponsoring agency attendants since both have heard from the parents
>of the injured boy.
I don't know if you can do the latter (hey Chris H.: can a Board approve
an award and not award it? I thought that once the Board approved the
award, that's it and the person is considered "promoted"). The best
thing here (from my thinking), is to postpone the Board of Review
until he can demostrate Scout Spirit. You don't need the District's
approval to do this...it is your call as Scoutmaster.
Let us all know how you decided to handle it, John!
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