follow up to ... EXPEL HIM?
John Monahan (YB50@MUSIC.FERRIS.EDU)
Tue, 22 Nov 1994 14:39:23 EST
I would first like to thank all of you for your concerns, comments, and
suggestions concerning this very serious situation. I am very concerned
that this is not an "out of the ordinary" situation since a great many
have written of comparable situations. I am also greatly encouraged by
the vast majority of the responses that had a "happy ending" to them.
Enough of the niceties, on to the case at hand.
We convened a special meeting and had the sponsoring church's board
pres, the DE, the DC (who also is in local law enforcement), the pastor
of the church, the SM, the Boy and his father, and 5 of 7 committee
members present. As you can tell from the assembled group this had been
given a very high priority. We ended up going with the adult committee
since this boy had earlier in the year become ASPL, and the boy shot was
a former ASPL and the involvement of the "senior boys" in shooting the
paint gun was disconcerting to us all. (Where was their leadership and
responsibility in this matter). At any rate we introduced the various
assembled members to the father/son and explained why we thought this wa
s necessary. The boy then gave a brief statement about the incidents as
he perceives them and he and his father offered some suggested courses
of action they would like to see followed.
The boy and his father concluded their comments and suggestions and excu
ssed themselves so that the committee could talk. The immediate discuss
ion was focused on removing the boy from the troop. I believe the more
rational approach (the one that was taken) was to have the boy step down
as ASPL, put a 3-4 month "hold" on his BoR (prudent I believe since he
would not be advanced anyhow), Write letters of apology to the parties
involved, perform an additional civic project (with the other boys who
shot the paint gun also), and make it mandatory that some parental
involvement be mandated until the "probation" period and BoR is
My feeling and the feeling of the DE and DC was that this lad and his
parents should probably be seeking some type of counseling.. he exhibits
some of the classic ADHD symptoms (my own son is ADHD) but the parents
refuse to acknowledge or pursue the possibility. Ironic to me is that
both parents are educators in our area (Elementary and College) and
the refusal to at least be tested or reviewed for this or some physical/
psychological issues leaves me a bit worried.
The boy and his father did not stay at the meeting place but instead
left with the parting words of.... Let us know by mail and we'll see
what we want to do. My fear is that the "home" trouble is at the root
of this behavior and the boy is screaming out to us to do something
but.... The DC (a cop remember) suggested that a formal complaint be
filed so that this could go before our local juvenile court and order
counseling, etc. and was seconded by the DE, who also chastised the SM
for allowing it to carry on this far without legal-system intervention.
The SM, who has led the troop since the formation about 4 years back is
worried about the negative impact of the "publicity" on the troop and is
trying to maintain a steady course and treat this as he would any other
over zealous boy who hurt someone accidentally.
The close of the meeting was that the pastor and the pastoral board
president have indicated that WRITTEN procedures be formulated and
presented to the church board for follow up that deals with HOW DO YOU
DEAL WITH UNRULY BOYS. (probably good advice for everyone anyhow) We do
not know yet if the boy and a parent will attend tonights regularly
scheduled meeting, but should that happen a written copy of the
procedural steps we plan to follow will be present, should they not
attend a copy will be mailed to the home.
As an added bonus, we are in a rural area and firearms are in most
homes, the DC (the cop) has offered to conduct a firearms training
course in conjunction with rifle/shotgun shooting MB's to be the outcome
. We hope this will enlighten many of the boys to what they (firearms)
are capable of doing (pictures of the boy who was shot will be used as
graphic evidence of what a "toy" is capable of.) as well as the proper
care, use, and general dangers that we must be aware of when our family
or friends may possess firearms in the home.
I am hopeful that the stipulations that this be followed for the next
several months is not to much of a burden on the "family" because I
believe that this is a good kid who probably needs scouting more than
many others and we will all be the loser if he no longer participates
since he will be adrift without a rudder.
I would again like to thank all of you for your assistance and I truly
believe we can rise from this and move forward, I just hope that it
might benefit some others as well.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City