Re: do we expel him?
Rick Meisch (rick@PROVIDER.INS.COM)
Tue, 22 Nov 1994 11:39:34 -0600
>I cannot believe that anybody of average intelligence cannot understand
>that a paintball gun fired at close range will hurt ... and what the heck
>was he doing with it in anycase ? It's not something you would " just
>happen to have in your pocket " ... the only reason for carrying a weapon
>is if you are prepared to use it. Since it is not something I would
>expect a kid to have for self-defence the only alternative is that he
>must have premeditated an assault on the other kid. That is what worries me.
My $.02 worth...
Yes a paintball gun can hurt, but a paintball gun is part of a sport here
in the US and is not a weapon!!!!!! The view should be more on the order
of somebody hitting a baseball at another person. I am not sure if you
understand the sport of paintball. There are typically two teams that play
a game very similar to the game of "Capture the Flag" that many of us
including myself enjoyed playing in Scouts. To even consider using one of
these devices as a self defense weapon would be VERY STUPID and would more
than likely just piss the other person off and definitely not incapacitate
him. Kids in this country, even New York City where gun control laws are
the strictest, play this game. My view comes from my Scouting background.
Where, yes, I did earn my NRA safe hunter saftey certificate and honed my
shooting skills and safety practices with firearms. No I am not a member
of the NRA. I did play capture the flag, baseball, football, and other
sports in Scouting. If you want to treat this device as a firearm,
Scouting is a great place to learn about firearm safety. It is a
heck-of-a-lot better than the streets. I personally would rather be hit by
a paint ball that a baseball bat!!!
I would personally would treat this matter exactly how it should be. I
would treat this person as if he had either hit the other kid with his fist
or intentionally hit him with a baseball or any other item. There does
need to be order, but don't treat this as a criminal act. Pull him to one
side. Voice your concerns. Definitely, include him in the loop. Try to
find out what is making him act this way. Let it be his decision to stay
in Scouting. Make him understand that continuing like this will lead to
him being kicked out. Let him know that part of his advancement will
require acting like a leader and showing respect. This is the example that
you will need to show him. Respect. It may be what he personally is
lacking. Self respect and the respect of others. His non-Scouting peers
may be applying pressure and to show that he is "cool" he may be pulling
these stunts to impress them. I think you should also entertain
suggestions from his peers as to why his attitude may have changed. These
may be the people around him, these may be other Scouts on the net that may
have similar feelings.
Ooops, I think I found that soadbox that someone earlier had mentioned.
I did here of one episode, I beleive it was in Central Park, New York City,
where two kids thwarted an attempted rape. The two kids were playing
paintball when they heard the struggle. They fired their paintball guns at
the attacker hitting him several times. The attacker was startled by the
paintball hits and ran off. He was later captured by police and was able
to be identified by the paint that was spattered on him during the
incident. Maybe I was wrong, they can be used for defense. However, I
wouldn't depend on one.
Rick Meisch email@example.com
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