Kevin S Woods (kswoods@CHRISTA.UNH.EDU)
Mon, 21 Nov 1994 10:47:06 -0500
I have been reading with great interest the articles entitled "should we
fire him." We have a similar but lesser degree problem here in N.H. that
I would like to throw out for ideas.
We are experiencing a discipline problem with some of the newer
scouts. Our Sm and ASM's are truly trying to keep the program, boy run.
But the SM is getting very frustrated.
In the past (as I am sure it occurred in many troops) when a new
boy was difficult, the older scouts may have taken him out back for a
"discussion". When my oldest (now a 15yo life) came into troop. Just
the size of some of the older boys created respect. When they stood
above them and growled, boys behaved.
It is no longer the case. Threaten one, and the response is
"I'll get my lawyer!!" The result is:
1. The older boys are discouraged and are loosing interest
2. The young, quiet, less demonstrative boys sit there and don't
3. A handful of rowdys, disrupt the meetings.
The scoutmaster is the one who is able to "put the fear of God" in the
boys. But he does not feel he should have to stand and run the show. He
truly wants the boys to lead.
The result is that the Sm and ASM's are putting together a new troop
policy book. It will be based on the scout oath and law. It will
include a discipline procedure to the effect that
1. 1st offence meet with Sm and SPL
2. 2nd time same offense meet with Sm, Senior staff(SPL, ASPL, P.L), note
3. 3rd time, parents must attend meetings/events with scout.
The SM, doesnt believe he can banish a boy from the troop.
Keep in mind that most of this problem is non violent, mouthy, disruptive
We are also developing policies for participation/attendance. It has
fallen way way off for service/fundraising (non-fun) events.
Thanks for your ideas and contributions
Kevin S. Woods
Committeemember, Troop 100
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City