Re: Groups and GSL's
Gerald Demontgny (gdemontg@CCS.CARLETON.CA)
Fri, 18 Nov 1994 11:01:47 EST
Byron Hynes writes:
> > The Group Scout Leader idea is being talked about. It was
> > suggested in one of the recent structure discussion papers generated
> > by Scouts Canada to improve program delivery. While most leaders on
> > the sharp end are uncertain exactly what the role entails, i have yet
> > to meet one who really wants the job. When our district was
> > discussing the possibility of being a pilot project in this, the
> > discussion was mostly negative.
Just have to throw my $.02 in on this one. I agree entirely, that
this seems to be an idea generated from on high. I became acquainted
with it somewhat by accident, by simple virtue of having signed on for
a Woodbadge I for troop --I am actually a Cub leader, but I just
wanted to complete the Troop woodbadge-- and it was mentioned there.
The plan seems wonked, at least when seen from the front-line. As I
look around our group we are all actively involved with our sections.
Further, we have a pretty good sense of what each section is doing as
we all report on our activities during our monthly meetings.
Therefore whatever argument that could be made for this position
providing continuity is undercut by the coordination which we already
build at group level. The second problem is conceiving of who would
do the work as Group Scout Leader. As a former Beaver leader, I did
not feel confident enough or knowleable enough about the other
programs to tell them how to run their sections. Now as a Cub leader
I may know how to run my pack, but I do not know how to run a Scout
Troop, although I forward to learning. To make matters worse we
already had a system in place which I felt did work, and that is the
service scouter who was assigned for each section in our Area, i.e.
Chaudiere in the National Capital Region. Our service Scouter
organized regular monthly meetings of Cub Leaders in our Area, known
as "Old Wolves" meetings. These meetings were used to share ideas on
different program dimensions, e.g., religion in life, games, Scouting
for Youth with Disabilities, etc., as well as to develop our Area
events, such as the Chuckwagon races --small boxes pulled by four cubs
up front and one steersman in back with a cub inside around a course
marked on an ice rink--, Kub Kars, and area spring camp. The Old
Wolves meetings allowed us to meet Cub leaders from different groups
and to develop a sense of broader loyalties. My understanding is that
our Old Wolves group will continue to exist, however, I do not see how
the creation of a Group Scout Leader will add to our existing program.
Nor quite frankly do I know who will be willing to take on the
> > So, what the heck does a Group Scout Leader do?
> According to the theory, they can help new leaders in the group, liase
> between program leaders and the district... etc.
> However, I know at least one commissioner who sees them as a way to
> avoid the servicing required to set up group committees, and/or a way to
> circumvent group committees that oppose or disagree with the commissioner.
I would be interested to know if anyone has anything positive to say
about these changes, or if there is anyone who is out there willing to
put forward Scouts Canada's position. I plan to phone them today to
request an outline of the plan.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City