Jim Miller, Jr. (jmillerjr@LSFCU.ORG)
Fri, 18 Nov 1994 11:11:02 EST-5
In reply to:
>This is taken to mean that there are two codes of "PROPER" conduct ...
>One in Uniform ... One out of Uniform ... ????
I've always felt it to mean that the organization (BSA) should be held
at a higher level than the individuals who are in it.
>Is this the hyprocracy you wish to teach the troops ???
>If it's improper conduct ... It's improper conduct !!!
Not necessarily. There are plenty of activities that are considered
acceptable for adults to participate in that should not be promoted as
proper for youth. By wearing the uniform, you place yourself in an
obvious position to represent the ideals of the organization. While
those who know you may understand that you are doing nothing wrong, the
uniform represents the organization as a whole to anyone who may see
you. This is the same reason that we are not supposed to wear uniforms
while selling anything. The need to keep the organization beyond
reproach far exceeds the need to use the reputation of the organization
as a selling point. BSA does not make endorsements of products or
people. Wearing the uniform implies just such an endorsement.
>Questionable conduct at a scout function is just as wrong in or out of
>uniform!!! If you won't do it in uniform, why approve of it out.
>Why do the adult leaders feel that council/district/etc level functions
>need to include something that they are ashamed of enough to not want
>be seen in uniform.
>You stop being a scout when you shed the Uniform?
No, you don't. There are many things that I am much more aware of in
uniform though. For example, I don't wear a seat belt every time I get
in a car. When I am in uniform however, I ALWAYS do. When in uniform the
public has a right to hold me to a higher standard, as an example. I'm
not ashamed of the fact that I participate in the consumption of
alcohol. I certainly wouldn't do it in uniform though, because the
uniform deserves more repect than that. When I'm in that uniform, I
represent a set of ideals and have an obligation to publicly demonstrate
those ideals to all who may see me.
>This from the leaders who have to pass the scouts on living the scout
>ideals in there everyday lives for rank advancement. IMHO, I question
>the qualification of those with such thinking to make that call.
>Right is Right ... Wrong is Wrong ... IN OR OUT OF UNIFORM!!
This is true. Unfortunately, every single person on the planet has there
own view on everything. It is very difficult to combine all of those
individual viewpoints into a unified code of right and wrong, at least
without a scientific theory of morality to base it all on. We need to
remeber that none of us have any instinctive morality. Since it is all
learned and we all learn in different environments, we must let others
make their own decisions on right and wrong. As Scouts and Scouters, we
have agreed to a common basic morality to teach the youth in the program
and must tow the company line whenever we represent our organization to
>Bill Myers, Advisor Post 2193
>Note: to those on here in my council...
> YES ... this include our local district awards dinners,
>reunion dinners, etc.
I wonder where that soapbox came from? Think I'll put it away as well.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City