Vic Bitel (VICTAH@AOL.COM)
Sat, 5 Nov 1994 20:47:24 -0500
To: Craig Moeller
<<<<In the Space Derby, how can we use all 4 lanes effectivly and give each
the scouts an even chance to win? How should we draw the elimination grid?
Also, we would like to use all three lane in the Pinewood Derby. What system
works well for you?>>>>
Craig: Our Pack (and Council District) run 6-lane tracks for our Pinewoods.
The elimination process is quite simple. Groups of six cars are chosen to
run on the track. All six race each other six times(heats) with each car
setting up on a different lane each time. This equalizes lane conditions
The top three cars from the six racing advance to the next round where they
race three winners from the next six, and so on. The three losing cars are
thnked for participating and are told they are done for the day. The Cubs
actully run their cars a minimum of six times and I've yet to see one
disappointed in five years of derbies!!
Although we employ six-lanes, the e system could work for four lanes; with
two advancing after four heats.
Double elimination is easily accommodated within this system. The "losers"
from the first elimination round (those cars not advancing to the second
round) may race each other until a winner of the "losers" emerges. As this
car has only one loss (that occurring in the first round) it may race against
the "losers" of the final elimination round to detirmine 2nd-thru-whatever
place. In this way, all Cubs get a second chance and the car or plane
without a loss is the champion.
This system quite worked well for an In-Hospital Cub Pack I had organized at
the children's psychiatric hospital where I work. We only had ten cubs racing
on a two-lane track, but the Cubs seemed to enjoy and appreciate having a
"second chance" to race (albeit not to win first place). I doubt that we
could do double eliminatin at our district Pinewood, where it's not uncommon
to have 200-300 cars racing.
Hope this helps. If you'd like to e-mail me your "snail-mail" address (home
postal address), I'd be happy to send along the six-lane heat charts we use
for my son's Pack.
Cubmaster Pack 164
Walled Lake, Michigan (USA)
Clinton Valley Council
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City