PP and cooking
Lisa Varner (lvarner@FREENET.COLUMBUS.OH.US)
Tue, 18 Oct 1994 21:47:23 -0400
Well, it seems as if parlimentary procedure IS being used, although very
loosely in most troops. Yes, Chuck we do use "Robert's Rules of
Order". Adaptation to the troop seems to be the key. Most here seem to think
it does instill some sense of order when it is used, no matter how loosely
it is enforced. And leader memories of long ago, in their own scouting
days, seem to be positively influenced by this method of control. It does
give everyone an equal say.
Patrick, we have found that to keep only one person talking at a time we
pass around an object, and only the person holding that object may speak.
The girls are always reminding each other..."You don't have xxx so you"ll
just have to wait your turn." I find the kids get just as frustrated with
each other, as the leaders do, when nothing is getting accomplished.
Jim mentioned having the talking child stand, another good idea. Although
we have some in the troop that can never sit down! <G>
One thing that has not been addressed is the fact that it teaches them
that when they are working in a group, they have to learn to accept the
decisons that the group makes as a whole even though they may not
necessarily agree with what was chosen. For some, this is a very hard
concept to learn. But eventually they realize sometimes they don't get
their way, but sometimes they do. And to be a part of a group is a give
and take. The choices that are voted in are to benefit the group as a
whole and not any one individual person. This puts them on a more even
footing with each other, and gives them confidence. Those scouts who do
not speak up, in their heads think, "You can say what you want, but I
still have my vote."
Yes, for those of you who asked, a buddy burner is the same as a tin can
stove. It has holes around the bottom ring of a coffee can for
ventilation, and a rectangle cut out one one side near the bottom for
putting your fuel source in. Your fuel source is like a sterno can, made
from a tuna fish can. Rolled up corrugated cardboard strips are placed
inside and candle was is melted over the top. The lid of the tuna can is
attached to a coat hanger handle and is used as a damper to control your
heat. Buddy burners can be cooked directly on top of or used with a mess
Russel mentioned using envelopes of foil laid near the fire to cook biscuits
from the tube. Sounds like a neat thing to try, I will keep this in mind.
Wonder what else would work using this method. Very similar to S'Mores!
Kathleen, Lynn and Sara talked of reflector ovens and cardboard box ovens.
Neither of which I have had much experience using. I think box ovens
sound great for cooking for the whole troop a baked good. I would love to
try a meatloaf, and the cardboard box can be folded for packing! But, I
really like the idea Lynn said of making small individual reflectors out
of twigs and tin foil.
Kathleen also mentioned dutch oven cooking which our troop has been doing.
Although she has mentioned stack cooking which I have never tried. Sounds
like a one pot meal! Low clean up, the girls like that!
Bob, your method of cooking a turkey sounds interesting although I know my
troop could never wait that long for a meal to cook. They are very
impatient and someone would have to remain at the site while it is
cooking. For those of you that are interested, I have another method similar
to this, only I think it may be a little easier to construct.
Vertical Spit Cooking
Cook chicken using this method, which is like and uncovered oven, by
driving four 3' long metal stakes into the ground 12-14" apart, forming a
square. Cut 4 pieces of 1" mesh chicken wire 2' long and nine holes wide
(leave nine holes and cut tenth in half). Fasten the two long sides of
each roll together, making long, tube-like cages. Slip each wire
cage vertically down over each metal stake and fill cages with briquets
(one row of briquets from ground to top of cage). Light briquets. When
hot, wrap heavy-duty foil around outside of four stakes to hold in heat.
Make a tripod out of three sticks or lenghts of metal about 4' long, tying
together at top with rope or picture wire. Place tripod over 4 stakes so
that tripod is centered over them. Tie wings of chicken (fryer) to its
body. Tie a long enough length of heavy string or picture wire to legs of
chicken so that when the other end of string or wire is tied to the top of
the tripod the chicken will dangle about 3-4" above the ground. Roasting
time: 1-1/2 hours. If you baste the chicken with barbecue sauce, do it
the last 15 minutes or the sauce will burn.
On a final note: This whole mess can be substituted by using a wire
tomato cage turned upside down and the chicken place on the prongs or hung
from the prongs. Haven't tried this method but heard it works just
as well, still wrapping the base in foil. Happy roasting!
Thanks for all your input.
Lisa Varner <<email@example.com >>
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