Re: "baptism" of fresh summer-campers
Gino Lucrezi (lucrezi@IINF01.ING.UNIVAQ.IT.)
Tue, 18 Oct 1994 02:49:04 MET
> I think that much of what you have said with regard to the need for a
> youth to accomplish rites of passage in their lives. I just hope that the
> tests you are suggesting are learning experiences. I think that they might
> relate to scouting skills or the like for our movement. For others they
> might be service or camping skill oriented. You talk about "jumping the fire"
> I don't see that as a particularly constructive rite of passage or am I
The tests we have for giving Indian Names are necessarily to be
completed in 5-10 minutes at most, but in other occasions anything
longer and more lasting goes. I chose the awarding of indian names as
an example because of its simplicity.
I think I mislabeled the "jumping the fire". It is partly a test (win
fear, most scouts can easily jump twice as hig or as long than needed
with the fire, so it's just a matter of overcoming fear), but it is
mostly used to mark their transition. Just as one tries to have a
good-looking ceremony for awarding ranks, "jumping the fire" is used
on that occasion.
> I feel that something becomes a true rite of passage by it having meaning
> to the person going through it and that it receives recognition on its
> completion. I wonder if graduation has lost some of its status as a rite
> of passage because it no longer is the guarantee to a job immediately upon
> completion. This would seem to imply that we need to either change the
> expectation or change the recognition given.
I agree. The same thing about graduation happened in Italy.
> My biggest concern in all of the thread that I have read so far is that
> we not call hazing by some other name.
That's what we have Scouters for.
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