Re: ASM Patch Request
Settummanque, the blackeagle (waltoml@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU)
Thu, 22 Sep 1994 22:04:28 CST
"Christopher L. Rankin (216) 397-5100" <CRANKIN@JCVAXA.JCU.EDU> writes:
>Things just haven't been the same since the BSA switched over to those khaki
>background patches a little while back.....
I think that they look really stupid (I was thinking of another word,
and remembered our guidelines here *smiling*) too...
Someone at National has forgotten the basic fact that the Scoutmaster
and Assistant Scoutmaster patches were NEVER "blended in"
patches..they were DESIGNED even in the earliest versions to STAND
>Unfortunately, I became an ASM about 1 - 1 1/2 years after the change and thus
>was not afforded the opportunity to purchase the ASM position patch that was in
>use before then (you remember what it looks like-- the gray border with the
>green background-- it looked rather nice, compared to the khaki patches we've
>got today). Anyway, I'm looking to get a couple of these to put on a couple of
>my uniforms. If anybody has any of these lying around that you're willing to
>give or trade, I'd appreciate it if you could drop me a line.
You've described the Scoutmaster patch, not the Assistant Scoutmaster
patch. The ASM patches were all with a "yellow" gold border (symbolic
of supporting the "silver bar" people, as those leaders were called
back then!) with green background and full color design. I've got
two, and I would more than happy to know that something that I've
worn a while back was continiuing to be worn. Don't worry...the FIRST
Assistant Scoutmaster patch I've worn is framed along with a cheezy
picture of me when I was the ASM of a Troop in my college town (we had
those people that do the elementary school and sports teams pictures
to make a Troop picture). Remember that guy "Link" from the TV show
The Mod Squad? Put him in a Scout uniform and you've got me!
(all of that HAIR...where did it ALL GO??? *heheheheheehe* )
Send me your smail address, and we can do the trade. Have any CSPs?
For Trivia sake, the ASM patch that Chris talks about came in two
varieties: a "untrained" version which is the basic patch; and a
"trained" version which was fully threaded using Mylar (shiny and
sturdy) threads. It was this fully-embrodered patch and it's friends
and relatives that many Scouters were going "ga-ga" over, because the
ONLY way to get them legally was to be FULLY TRAINED in your position,
whatever your position was. During 1974-76, the BSA had an increase
of 430 percent of their top leaders trained over the period 1971-73.
Now, we get a strip labled "Trained" (and some of us are STILL waiting
for the silly strip to be presented, right Jess?).
The BSA's Top leader trained stat stands at (1992 figures, the latest
ones I've got access to) 42.7 percent. In 1974, it was 88.1 percent
and in 1976, it was 89.9 percent.
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