Re: Eagle before 13?
Bob Condon (rec@EPOCH.COM)
Thu, 22 Sep 1994 08:56:55 +0500
> Wed, 21 Sep 1994, Susan Ganther wrote:
> Superior work does not necessarily indicate superior effort, and it
> is the effort I am primarily concerned with. Superior work from a 13 year
> old over that of a 17 year old might or might not indicate a difference in
> academic ability or intelligence rather than a difference in effort and
> committment. A better measure of committmet to doing ones best is how
> much time one is prepared to spend on something, which is why I think a
> 13 year old Eagle candidate has not given the effort he could have given
> to his requirements. That is not to say that the candidate who
> procrastinated until he was 17 before rushing thru everything is any
> better than the 13 year old Eagle, we have all seen those. I just don't
> believe that rushing to finish at 13 is any better than rushing to finish
> at 18.
A boy that puts in 3x the amount of time but produces less quality
product should not be given an award over the boy that executes well and
produces a superior product. The first boy may be more committed, but the
end result is still poorer. Time is not a good test.
If a boy is committed to the troop and commited to the leadership,
executing well ,then he deserves the recognition and the advancement,
no matter the age.
> There are plenty of other things a boy can and should do between
> the ages of 11 and 13 than full time persuit of the Eagle award, so
> cramming everything one hopes to get out of Scouting into a 2 year period
> is not the answer.
Please explain. Some of the boys have decided that service to the troop
leadership is what they want to do at this time in their life. This is
the group of boys that I want to work with for Eagle. These boys are around
13 and are advancing because they are willing to put in the time and effort
and to execute their leadership well.
I suppose I should tell them that their dedication
should come later and they should go off and do other things. Scouting
leadership is for the older boys.
This makes no sense to me at all.
> We need to make our units more responsive to the
> needs of the older Scouts instead of trying to crank out Eagles faster
> because they will leave at 14 or 15 to find what they are looking for
My statement is to make our units more responsive to the needs of the
scout that is willing to do the work. No Age Requirement.
If we aren't responsive to the 11-13 year old who is willing
to do the work, then they will leave too.
What do we do with the lazy 11-14 year old that slogs through
until the age of 16 to get to first class and decides to go
for higher advancement? Should I be more responsive to
him over the guys that have worked hard from the start.
I have a couple of these boys right now. The boys did not
elect them to even the most minor leadership position
because they have never didcated themselves to anything in scouting.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City