Re: Eagle Trivia - Basic Question
Ian Ford (ianford@DIRCON.CO.UK)
Tue, 30 Aug 1994 22:15:43 +100
On Tue, 30 Aug 1994, Larry Rinaldo wrote:
> In a posting Settummanque, the blackeagle... states:
> => The Eagle was chosen as the award because of it's association with
> => several items completely American. Our nation's symbol is the Eagle
> => with wings outstretched, symbolizing strength, protection and flight.
> => The Eagle was also chosen since several other nations had other awards
> => in the names of other creatures, and it made sense to create an award
> => which symbolizes our heritage.
> Reviewing the posting Mike, there seems to be the notion about Kings and
> Queens Scout. Was this an endorsement by England upon the Scouts for
> special recognition? Or was this established by B-P? Since the US got a
> later start in the Scouting movement, is it B-P or the American contingent
> who suggest the "Eagle" as the highest rank? I understand the reason for
> the symbolism, just curious as to the who, why, and when.
> In addition, I have noticed that several of you Scouters out there have
> reference to your country recognition. In line with that, is there
> a priority of recognition. I mean is there any more importance placed upon
> a Kings, Queens Scout compared to the US Eagle? (I presume equal)
> Patrick Lam wrote :
> This leads me to ask, how are these awards made? One of you said that
> the adults do not perform the BOR, but rather is peer review. How do
> countries confer the recognition?
Here in UK the highest _Scout_ award (age 10,6 - 15,6) is the Chief
Scout's Award. It is " passed under arrangements made by the Scout
Leader and awarded by the Patrol Leaders Council. " Note that the award
is made by the youth members with the SL as adviser. The badge is
obtained from the District Badge Secretary and presented locally at a
parent's evening , church parade etc. Then there is usually a County
(council) reception for award holders where the certificate is presented
by the County Commissioner, or somebody appropriate.
The Queen's Scout award is "passed under arrangements made by the Unit
Executive Committee and awarded by them after consultation with the
Venture Scout Leader and District Commissioner (following his informal
interview with the Venture Scout) . " i.e. the VS would chat with the
District Commissioner who makes a RECOMMENDATION to the Unit Executive
Committee. The UEC has the final say. Note that the Unit Executive
Committee is comprised of the youth officers of the Unit with the VSL in
a non-voting advisory capacity.
The badge is usually presented by the County Commissioner at a Unit,
District or County ceremony . The Queen's Certificate is usually
presented at a formal occasion , often by the Chief Commissioner from HQ , the
Lord Mayor , Lord Lieutenant of a county or other civic dignitary on behalf
of Her Majesty.
Ian N Ford
AGSL 25th Greenwich Scout Group
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