Re: Larry R's Eagle Trivia
Ian Ford (ianford@DIRCON.CO.UK)
Sat, 27 Aug 1994 02:52:31 +100
On Fri, 26 Aug 1994, Patrick Lam wrote:
> Larry, you'll find that the Eagle is a rather American thing.
> I believe that a Scout could become a Queen's Scout in Britain
> when BP started Scouting. That's also what we had here, until about
> 1970, and here in Canada we have the Chief Scout's Award (for the
> Scouts, 11-14), and a Queen's Venturer Award (for Venturers, 14-17).
Actually it was KING'S SCOUT but the same principle applies !
> It works the same way in the United Kingdom today (unless I'm wrong.
> please correct me?) except that they call it Chief Scout's / Queen's
> Scout, and also in Australia. (All being Commonwealth countries).
> The Chief Scout here is the Governor-General. It's a Canadian thing.
The Chief Scout's Award is the highest award for _ Scouts_ , aged 10 - 15
The Queen's Scout award is the highest award for _ Venture Scouts_ aged 15
- 20. It is possible for a Venture Scout to earn Queen's Scout without
having earned the CSA as a Scout.
> You'll find that different countries have different recognitions.
> I also seem to remember that a Scout can earn the Springbuck award (?)
> in S. Africa. In the Association des Eclaireurs Baden-Powell (a
> splinter group in Canada), you can be a Scout du Baussant and earn
> the Ailes de Chevalier (Knights' Wings).
> It varies. Eagle was probably chosen because you're in America, and
> it's your national bird.
That sounds about right. The BSA system is different in quite a few
respects from that of other Scout organisations , e.g. we in UK do not
have adult-run Boards of Review , everything is peer-assessed.
BSA retains some of the names that B-P introduced - Tenderfoot, Second
Class and First Class. Then came , if I recall correctly, Scout Cords,
Bushman's Thong and Queen's Scout Award , roughly Star, Life and Eagle.
The original requirements were base around merit badges , as is still the
case in BSA. Over the years the UK program has moved to where each Scout
more or less chooses his own route to follow for the higher awards within a
framework of alternative requirements.
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