Re: BSA Eagle Positions of Responsibility
Jim Sleezer (JHS8@OSUVM1.BITNET)
Sat, 20 Aug 1994 11:31:07 CST
On Sat, 20 Aug 1994 00:20:07 -0600 SMURF said:
>That is interesting, in my troop, when we get new scouts they are just put into
>patrols with the older boys. We tried once to do the new scout patrol, but at
>the same time several of our oldest most experienced scouts got Eagle, and flew
>the coop so to say. The patrol had no Youth to show them by example, and the
>idea failed. How are you able to have youth help this patrol out?
As you know, every troop is different. What works one place doesn't work as
well in another unit. But, where I have seen the new scout patrol work best,
the troop usually has three or more regular patrols with a full range of ages
and ranks represented. One of the patrol leaders of these regular patrols is
identified as a potential troop guide for the incoming new scout patrol (which
usually arrives in late February-March time period). The SPL makes the
appointment with the advice and consent of the SM. The regular patrol elects
a new patrol leader and the new troop guide moves to the new scout patrol. As
an experienced PL (and with a little assistance from the ASM assigned to the
new scout patrol), the troop guide gets new new scouts off to a great start.
One of their membership is selected by the patrol to be patrol leader. In our
case, this is usually a one month term. The PL appoints his APL and both
attend the PLC with the Troop Guide. The team of three has one vote which is
cast by the PL. The term of office is extended to assure an opportunity for
each PL to participate in the PLC (once as PL and once as APL). That way PLC
is not some mysterious body making decisions for them.
One of the important things is that the regular patrols are all functional
patrols at or near full strength. If you loose several older youth, it may
make sense to do a little restructuring, i.e., merging two smaller patrols
to make one good one. If you have been operating for the previous year with
a new scout patrol, it should be disbanded and the scouts merged into the
regular patrols prior to the arrival on the new group of Webelos. If it is an
ongoing program, at any given time you have several regular patrols whose
members have been scouts for anywhere from about a year to three or four years.
You have a new scout patrol whose members have been scouts for less than a
I have seen units where the new scout patrol decides to stay together and
become a regular patrol. This may mean restructuring existing patrols to
maintain an approximate 8-scout size. (Restructuring should be the boys'
choice, not a leader mandate.) I expect older boys to move on but if your
unit has a full range of ages represented, it should not be a problem.
Does this give you some understanding of how it seems to work for us? I know
of a number of units which have abandoned the new scout patrol as unworkable.
I think it is highly dependent upon the unit and is not necessarily the right
choice for any unit.
Roundtable Commissioner, Pawnee Bill District, Will Rogers Council
Assistant Scoutmaster, Troop 18
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