Re: BSA Eagle Positions of Responsibility
Susan Ganther (susan@GIBBS.OIT.UNC.EDU)
Fri, 19 Aug 1994 13:10:35 -0400
On Thu, 18 Aug 1994, Jim Sleezer wrote:
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> Appointing a past patrol leader as an instructor or troop guide and
> having them operate outside a patrol promotes an elitism that can cause
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I think this depends on how your troop is organized in the first place.
If you have a broad range of ages and the Scouts are not grouped in
patrols by age then you have a natural succession of younger scouts
rising up and learning the leadership roles from older scouts, serving in
the position and then leaving the patrol as they are replaced by new
Scouts crossing over from Cubs. Where to put them after they have served
as patrol leader? If you are organized as above, then there may not be
room to keep them in their old patrol, they may have seen and done
everything that they can do within the patrol and can not really gain
anything new by staying. They may have a tendency to continue to run
things rather than leaving it to their successor if left in the patrol, and
while they may still have several years left before aging out, there is a
tendency to get bored and frustrated in this situation.
Better to move them to an honor patrol with new leadership
responsibilities like instructor, and give them the chance to plan
challenging activities that match their own level of ability. This way,
they stay and remain a resource for the troop.
On the other hand if you are using the new boy patrol and are keeping
those Scouts in their original patrol permanently, then the entire patrol
will age out together, and removing someone from the patrol after serving
as patrol leader will leave a smaller and smaller patrol and will create
the elitism that you refer to with scouts who have not had a turn leading
feeling like they have been left in the baby patrol, while the others
have moved on to real patrols. I have always had more concern with the
elimination of the leadership corps and the creation of the new boy
patrol being the real source of elitism, if you do use the new boy
patrol, just how are you supposed to establish continuity of patrols and
when, if ever, do you pull a Scout out of the new boy patrol and tell him
he is not a new boy anymore?
I think it is healthy for the younger scouts who need two hours to cook
and clean up from breakfast before a days activities can begin to see a
well organized and skilled honor patrol up and ready to go 30 minutes
after rising. It lets them know that it can be done. It also gives them
something to look forward to when the hear the Scouts in the honor patrol
talking about their high adventures, they know they are leaning their
skills for a reason and not just to earn a patch of cloth to wear.
There are a lot of different ways of organizing a troop, and what works
for one, may not look like a good idea for another, but that doen't make
it a bad idea altogether.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City