Re: Distinguished Commissioner A
Thu, 28 Jul 1994 09:58:40 EDT
On Wed, 27 Jul 1994 08:16:00 MST7MDT Wes Mays <WMAYS@ALB.ASCTMD.COM> wrote:
>I haven't posted to the list since my intro several months ago; I
>would ask that personal responses be directed back to me, if >possible.
Good to see you post after such a long time. Don't be so bashful - you're
among family here. This is an issue which affects several of us on this
so I want to put my $2.00 worth (inflation :) in.
>I have something of a dilema that I am hoping to get some support or
>advice on: I am just completing my fifth year of Commissioner
>service. That tenure, along with certain performance criteria,
>qualify me <I think> to earn the Distinguished Commissioner Award.
>Unfortunately, one must "beat your own drum" to get the award. It is
>presented on a Council by Council basis; my council has no formal
>application. I feel very guilty about having to ask for something
>that I have qualified for. (Generally, a word or two to the District
>Exec or District Advancement Committee is all that is required.)
If you have the tenure and performance criteria completed, then I think
you deserve the attaboy that goes with earning the Distinguished
Commissioner Award. Don't feel guilty - I think good work should be
recognized. Too many times working in this program is like peeing in
a pair of dark pants - you get a warm feeling, but no one notices.
Your gentle reminder to the District Commissioner may spur that person
to recognize other Commissioners who have performed their duties well.
<Stuff deleted regarding glory hounds and closing>
On the same subject, Kathie Cerveny <kathie@DELTA.EECS.NWU.EDU>
<Stuff deleted on greeting and process>
>However --- in the district I am now in -- I find that Northwest Suburban
>given out one of these awards to EVERY commissioner in this district
>(regardless of qualifications for the award) based on the word of the
>commissioner I inherited, who IS after personal recognition as the ONLY
>reason to be here.
>Thus --- just as the Father who pushes his boy through to Eagle, no matter
>what -- there are those who push through to and abuse any of our awards.
Ouch - that is a strong accusation. I know that rules are rules, but I also
that there is some latitude for interpretation for some rules, esp. as to how
are applied to experienced staff. If there is a commissioner (or group of
who has been in and active since the time of Moses, then IMHBCO, it is
perfectly appropriate to recognize that. Now, if there is deadwood (and I
have yet to
see deadwood in a Commissioner Staff - it must exist, but I haven't seen it)
recognized undeservedly, then that is another matter.
Kathie, Does the District consistently earn Quality District? Are the Units
strong member numbers, and have active programs? Does the Commissioner
staff help weaker units when help is needed? If these questions are answered
affirmatively, then you and I both know that Council (and District Committee,
for that matter) will not care if the district commissioner is a glory hound
- they will
only look at the results. I am not condoning abuse of the system, nor do I
award mills - I am only reciting a harsh political reality.
I appreciate your spirit in trying to maintain the integrity of the program.
like Eagle mills and awarding of Distingushed Service awards to those who
fat wallets or political connections - it sends bad messages to youth and
as well as the community as a whole. I have succeeded in alienating a couple
of people who could damage me politically (BSA) over this issue. But I don't
>However -- calling your status to the attention of your dist. commissioner
>bringing him/her a copy of the requirements (remember roundtable
>can also earn this one) to ask her/him to update the entire staff on the
>award, would be most appropriate.
Works for me - this is the most discreet way to get that person's attention
your own situation without looking like you are tooting your own horn.
>Where do you find it? Commissioner Fieldbook for Unit Service, no. 3617C,
>page 44, copy it out.
I is also in the back of your pocket program notebook No. 26-006.
>The commissioner service IF active and working properly can be the success
>our movement. I personally would like to see more discussion on the
>commissioner and what and how of the service.
I would like to see more discussion on this subject, but I have noticed that
a commissioner's work is either crisis intervention within units or sitting
and observing the programs. I would like to start a new thread on how to
emphasise, at the unit leader training level, that the commisisoners are
to help them run a successful program. Seems that commissioners in this
are barely tolerated, with some Scoutmasters working hard to run theirs off
first chance they get.
Any unit leaders want to relate good and bad relationsips with commissioners?
Are they noseygators, or unhelpful when you need help? Do you invite them to
your meetings and welcome them as the help they can be, and why not if you
I'm very interested in your stories and opinions.
Asistant District Commissioner
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City