Re: Environmental Sc...
RYAN KEIL (RYAN.KEIL@M.CC.UTAH.EDU)
Sat, 23 Jul 1994 12:56:44 -0600
On Fri, 22 Jul 1994 NorMac4101@AOL.COM wrote:
> Garen -
> Why should the youngster have to "learn a hard lesson" and be required to
> re-do the report? He was not involved in the incident that precipitated the
> raid on his campsite, and he Leader had already reviewed the report. Where is
> the fairness in forcing him to do the work over?
Ann and Norman make some very good points, the gist of which is that
requiring the boy to repeat the work done is, effectively, punishing him
for being a victim. Norman specifically raises the issue of fairness.
While I can and do empathize the situation, I see Garen's view, too. He
points out that Scouting occurs in the real world, with momentary
(hopefully) lapses with regard to the ideals of Scouting. Fairness is not
a guarantee, it is an ideal. Life is not fair.
Having read the original post, and the followups, I feel unqualified to
offer an answer. I simply want to point out that answer must meet the
context of the problem, and both views --do it again-- and --you saw it, give
him credit-- have certain merits to them. But the solution, I think Don
offered it, but I can't be certain, may in lie in demonstrating that the
boy has complied with the requirements and the intent of the requirements.
If his observations and report would have been satisfactory when presented,
then he has fulfilled this, IMHO. But therein lies the crux. The SM
posted this and admits he is not necessarily qualified to make this
judgement (I infer this from his comment that he is not ES Councilor and
he doesn't overtly state that he is qualified, so, there's room for error
in this assumption), yet he is the only one who has seen the notes and the
report. Reproducing the notes of the observations and the report itself,
after a year, are certainly problematic. How much could a 12-year old
reasonably forget in a year had he properly fulfilled the intent of the
requirement? How about a 16-year old?
OTOH, a year has elapsed. If the boy is able to reproduce to some degree
the work he did last year, perhaps he can do foreshortened set of
observation of the same site this year and make a brief, but relatively
concise comparative report.
Ryan Keil, BEAR-ly Scoutin'
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City