Re: Al "knot"ted up
Sat, 23 Jul 1994 11:08:50 EDT
On Fri, 22 Jul 1994 15:59:39 CST, "Settummanque, the blackeagle"
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>Freemason@AOL.COM writes:There are (in my copy of the >Scoutmaster's
Handbook) 29 square knots illustrated in color on >pages 244 and 245.
Additionally, there is now a square knot for the >Hornaday Award (looks like
the Eagle except the red parts are >green); the Tiger Coach Award (black and
>James West Fellowship (I forgot what it looked like); the Ranger >Award
(brown knot on khaki); the Ace Award (dark blue and red >ropes on khahi or
sky blue); the early version of the Silver Award >(red and gold ropes on dark
blue background); the previous version >of the Cub Scouter Award which was
called the Den Leader Coach >Training Award (we had an earlier "trivial
trivia" in which the question >was raised "which square knot is the ONLY one
which can be worn >TWICE to represent TWO DISTINCTIVELY DIFFERENT >AWARDS?",
which the answer was the Cub Scouter Award (the >present use) and the Den
Leader Coach Award (the older one); and >the Youth Leadership in America
Award (which presently is the top >silver bar with the lettering
>Now, in recounting....I come up with 37 (oops! Never was good with >the
math! Sorry. There are 37 presently unless I missed one >someplace).
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Mike, it seems that you're not the only one who could count - I only counted
30 (Hornaday Award is in mine). That leaves 32, with the Tiger Cub Coach and
Silver Dollar - oops, I mean James West Fellowship - Award currently listed
Although it would be legal to wear the Silver, Ace and Ranger knots, I
thought that the Explorer Achievement Award knot replaced all those.
Actually, I have not seen any old-timers wear those knots, and to get them
from the memorabilia sales lists (a real one, that is) is almost as expensive
as buying the medals themselves! (I have a friend who earned the Silver
Award, and I've been looking for a medal for him - his got damp and ruined -
it's really crusty. Maybe someone on the list knows where the ribbon for the
old Silver Award can be found? The medallion may be salvagable by a
reputable jeweller). Even the fake knots are getting a pretty penny!
This discussion kinda goes along with the thread on old "permanent" awards.
Maybe it's time for National to compile a list of those old permanent awards
and include them in an Appendix in the Insignia Control Guide, including
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City