Scott Begin (0005555440@MCIMAIL.COM)
Fri, 15 Jul 1994 19:39:00 EST
Daniel Kropveld <KROPVELD@AMC.UVA.NL> wrote about the "adult run,
controlled" initiations used by his troop.
There are traditions for doing similar things here in the US. Send a
scout after a non existant "thing," be it something that sounds
realistic (rope grease), something that if you thought about it, is
rediculus (Metric Crescent Wrench), or something that they can't move
(shore line). Among the things I've heard about are listed above, as
well as raisin peelers, #10 smoke bender, Left Handed monekey wrench,
Left handed smoke shifter, and others I can't recall at this time.
There are those who take the other side of the game, providing these
"nonexistant" items to scouts as a way to reverse the joke to those who
asked for the thing. I've actually seen a smoke shifter (and it seemed
to work, too) that was saved just for the occasions when someone asked
The only problem I've heard of with these rituals is that under the
Youth Protection Plan, it can be considered hazing (which is
phohibited), and shouldn't be done. I think the argument is that it
humiliates the scout. I can't say I completely agree with this, but I
do understand the arguments.
Yours in Scouting,
Scott A. Begin ASM, T-348, Oak Forest, IL; Calumet Council
In our group we are extra careful not to make the initiation rituals run
out of hand. Long ago we had rituals where the young scouts had to eat
or drink untasty things, or walk blinfolded with bare legs through
'ants-nest' or 'poisonous plants'.
The problem was that stories would get so much exaggerated, that the
first year scouts -by the start of summercamp- would be so terrified
that sometimes they did not dare to come to camp.
Of couse that is what nobody wants.
* Initiation rituals done by scouts are strictly not allowed in our group.
We leaders take the initiative, and have found some quite nice ideas of
little and for all _honourable_ things we could do.
What we do is kept secret, but now the older scouts tell the new ones quite
enthousiatic stories about the coming initiation, like: "that is great
fun" etc. The young scouts really look forward to it.
After the tents are set up we inspect the guy-ropes ('scheerlijnen' in
Dutch, ik hoop dat ik het goede woord heb). And conclude they are much
too dry! That is where we send two new boys off to the camp office to
borrow the guy-rope grease. Coming at the camp-office the man is sorry,
because he just had the jar given to the other group right at the other
side of the campsite. So off they go again to fetch it there. Over there
they will be sent to another group etc.
Last camp it took the boys as long as 75 minutes before they went to
realize something was basically wrong. When they came back empty handed
-embarresed, because a couple of times they just missed the fat, even
when they ran after the other scout- they were hailed into our group
again with loud cheers!
Of course there is no such thing as 'scheerlijnenvet' (guy-rope grease)
Most of the Dutch groups(-leaders) know the game, and act accordingly
when a young scouts asks for some fat. We might even ask the boy if it
should be 'red' or 'blue' brand fat. When they cannot tell, they must go
back and ask, because this is very important!
Alternatives are to fetch some 'compass declination', or the basket
containing our lost items. Sometimes we send a boy off to the office
(where the people over there are already instructed) for a simple
form. At the office he get an enormous pile of papers he can hardly
carry, to take back to our tents. When he comes he is told he got the
wrong papers, and he will be sent back again.
(They did that to me and I still laugh about how silly I was :)
The next camp we will play a fox-hunt. The one who will be 'it' will
have to change into a cute fox-costume. Then go ahead and hide.
After it is getting all too silent he will come back wondering and find
the play ground deserted with just an envelope, containing the
explanation. Ofcourse his uniform is gome too.
Then he will have to walk back to the camp in this embarrasing dress.
(We will ofcourse make very sure that boy will be able to find the way
These are just some ideas of a more pleasant initiation ritual.
Most of those ideas are pretty often done in Dutch scouting groups.
Hartelijke groeten van Daniel, <|:-)>=
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