Re: Atheists in Scouting
Settummanque, the blackeagle (waltoml@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU)
Fri, 15 Jul 1994 13:27:39 CST
John Pannell <PANNELLJ@DELPHI.COM> writes:
>I'll be brief.
>I wasn't aware of how specific/explicit the religious requirements in Cub
>Scouting are. I don't remember this from my Cub days (72-74), but maybe I'm
>just being forgetful about this after 20 years.
The requirements, John and Doug, were added to the Wolf and Bear
badges since 1973. The original intent was to get the Cub Scout to
earn the religious emblem of his faith. Before that, the "religion
requirement" existed in the Wolf, Bear and Lion books.
Again, *putting on Paraprofessional hat*, the idea is to EXPOSE the
Cub Scout to thinking about his family's religious life and to ASSIST
him in asking his parents or guardians about this aspect of family
life. You would be surprised at the number of kids that tell me that
"my Dad says that he's a (whatever name of religion), but we don't go
to church" or "I'm supposed to answer that I'm a (whatever name), but
I don't know anything about being one."
>I must wonder, and half facetiously, if the folks in Irving (the BSA
>national headquarters) have gotten a little too much sun on their scalps and
>too much of Texas preachers.
Nope...they are just trying to amplify that part of family life is
some sort of religious education or background. Note that the
requirement says NOTHING about "teaching elements of religion to
others", just to talk with your parents about religion.
Someone asked me on Rec.Scouting and later personally about a
situation whereby a Cub Scout was the son of atheists whom didn't want
their beliefs passed on to the Scout. She asked me "what kinds of
things can we do with him to demostrate elements of what contempory
religions teach? We don't want to lie and say "I'm a so-and-so" when
he's not; but he's not really ready to understand the concept of being
an atheist." I suggested that all religions have at their core a
basic understanding that we are all responsible to each other for our
actions; that there is a "greater power in the environment" which
created much of what we see, know and understand; that there is a
basic rule in most religions to "do good upon others and good should
be done upone upon you" (variants on the Golden Rule); and raditions
are passed based upon "family stories and examples" of the parents.
I also suggested much of what Doug stated in his posting, adding that
the Cub's family should share stories of meaning and family histories
with the Cub Scout, so that he has some idea that he was not
"hatched", but rather a decenant (sp) of someone....
Hope those notes added to this discussion!
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