Re: Pregnant scouts...
Settummanque, the blackeagle (waltoml@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU)
Fri, 1 Jul 1994 19:09:20 EDT
Randy Finder <NARAHT@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU> writes:
(to comments from Pat Skelly.....)
>>We have had a pregnant Explorer in our Post. There's really no story to
>>tell. For a while she wore a larger uniform blouse, then she had a baby boy.
>Sounds like the way that it should be dealt with.
>>The only restrictions that were placed on her activity were those determined
>>by the medical community.
>This is I presume her doctor?
Or Midwife. Or Nurse-practioner. Depends on who's taking care of
>>As to marital status, that is not - as I recall - a question asked on the
>>youth registration form. Therefore it is irrelevant.
>Are BSA's membership requirements (AKA the 3Gs) specifically asked about
>on the form?
>Who answers these questions on the form?
In the Explorer's case, the Explorer does. He or she gets their
parent's signature (in the case of the married member, the other
spouse can sign the permission form), fills out the health information
on the back, and turns it in with the money to the Advisor, whom must
approve the application. If I was that Explorer Advisor, I would have
a lot of questions to ask and even ask for a health statement from a
doctor to ease my personal concerns.
Then, I'll sign the application and send it to the local Council
office along with the money that afternoon or evening.
(It's really important that we as Scouters don't "hang onto the
applications" until we get X many, and then send them up there...in
some cases, Council insurance on those members start when their
application is RECEIVED in the local Council office, not when they
fill out the forms!)
>I presume that
>parents fill it out for Tiger Cubs and Cubs (I wouldn't want to try
>to explain enough about Homosexuality to a Tiger Cub to get a legal answer)
>OTOH, for a 16 yr old Boy Scout, he may have decided he is Gay and not told
That information is not even asked on the application, Brother
Randy....the Cubmaster, Scoutmaster, Coach, Skipper, or Advisor signs
and approves all youth members' applications.
>>If you go beyond those thoughts, you may be seen as discriminatory.
>I think that BSA would be (if it wanted) to put in a requirement that
>any explorer or leader less than 2 months to term would not be able to
>go on any physically demanding activity. The Roller Coaster people
>can do it(I think), BSA should be able to.
Why? If a medical official approves their participation, (and that
they REALLY want to go....Bless their souls....!), they should go.
Besides, if *I* was pregnant and one or two months before I were
to have the child, one of the LAST things I would want to do is to
sweat and get continuously unconfortable on a longterm camp. Trust
me, I'm the father of three, and I can tell you that at the eight and
ninth months, LIFE ENDS FOR THE MOTHER...she's more interested in
sitting, squatting and staying in ONE place for as LONG as she can and
to have EVERYTHING handed to her because moving becomes a CHORE.
Oh yeah. I forgot....she wants to be as COOL as she can stand it,
because the sheer exertion can break her out in a sweat! Camping?
Hiking? Rappelling? *laughter*
>None of these statements are intended to argumentative, if they seem that
>way I apologize.
Just wait until you get a chance to see this in real life...you will
wonder just *what* you were thinking of!! *hehehee*
Its a great question, Brother Randy, but face it: not many females
that far along will want to participate in anything outdoor until
after their delivery and recovery. Those that do, do so with their
doctor/medical opioion firmly in mind, because every mother wants a
healthy, happy baby and a good, strong, fast recovery. While medical
evidence says that pregnant women should be encouraged to exercise
even up to the day of delivery and that exercise in of itself won't
harm the child, there IS a line that each and every one of us reach
as far as exercise is concerned.
Settummanque!@HEY! I can remember (not so fondly!) those times!
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