Re: First of Many: Internet Scouter "OA Lodge Flap"
Settummanque, the blackeagle (waltoml@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU)
Wed, 22 Jun 1994 15:33:45 EDT
>I submit that the <"electronic global community" of Scouting> needs to take
>the World Association of Girl Guides and Girl Scouts into account also. Has
>there been thought of sharing some of the proceeds with WAGGGS as well? Any
>GSUSA Council will be delighted to move funds up the ladder to Geneva if they
>are earmarked for the "Juliette Low World Friendship Fund".
I forgot whom wrote me earlier about this point...I was under the
impression that by sending monies to the World Friendship Fund that
those monies go directly to WOSM, which supports BOTH boy and girl
scouting/guides program around the world. Perhaps I'm wrong, and it
won't be the first time....if someone can find out for me for sure, I
would really appreciate it.
I want this to be as equalable as I can possibly make it. I've
already been beaten over the head and shoulders by Jessian because of
the "25%" thing... "You won't make anything from it....you'll see..",
has been ringing in my head all day long today. I do listen to my
honies, though...even though I feel that I'm doing the right thing by
helping to support the concept of world scouting.
>And what about the YOUTH leaders of the National Order of the Arrow? They
>should be asked for permission to commemorate THEIR conference. This is a
>Blackeagle Services patch, unofficial anywhere else, and so permission of
>other organizations is not required; but a Scout IS courteous.
Not neccessarily so, Pat. During the National Jamboree, several
"private parties" created special patches, NOT AUTHORIZED BY ANYONE
EXCEPT THEM, for various subcamps, staffs, coordinating groups, and
on and on...and sold them, traded them, or even gave them away to
others during the Jamboree. That's part of participating in Scouting.
This patch, as you mention, is NOT an "official patch of any kind" and
the only connection it will have to the Order of the Arrow or the
Conference, is the OA sash that the dove is holding in it's beak and
the Delaware Indian names which are associated with the activities of
this (and others, including yours) groups.
Like with others, since it does NOT contain one of the BSA's official
indica, I don't need or plan on submitting it to the Order of the
Arrow's Council of Chiefs. This may seem a slight bit "corrupt", but
I feel that submitting it would make it "become" a Order of the Arrow
patch in a similar way that asking permission to hold a "internet
lodge meeting" as part of the Conference would make it "become an
official part of the Conference" (the "Internet Lodge Meeting is NOT a
official part of the National Order of the Arrow Conference).
In this case, two Scout Laws conflict with each other: the Courtsey
point with the Loyality point (being loyal to those Internet members
that want such a patch without connectivity to the BSA).
I do appreciate the concern, however, and will seek to continue to
find an answer to the "World Fund" question which has come up three
times so far.
Settummanque, the blackeagle... (MAJ) Mike L. Walton (
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