Re: Getting the boys to lead
August Treubig (atreubi@CCTUADMIN3.ENTERGY.COM)
Tue, 14 Jun 1994 08:47:13 +0600
Yesterday, I wrote
AT: Anyway, back to your problem.. Generally the first rule should be...
No part of weekend deals. The boy should in for the whole deal.
SG: I have to disagree with this one. If they have to choose between Scouts
and anything else that happens on a weekend, you are doing a disservice
to the Scout who stays by denying him the felxibility to be able to
participate in other activities. ...
And Susan Ganther replied as above...
I think that some of you didn't understand what I meant....
On a given weekend, i.e. a weekend campout, if a boy (particularly in
a leadership position) cannot be there to lead the group, why should
he come... I have seen parents and boys want to show up at noon on
Saturday for a camp out.... Their reasons have varied. But mostly it
came down to a lack of commitment by both the boys and parents....
Today Ian Ford writes about a youth that had continuing school conflicts.
In most ways that is a different kind of story... In his instance there
was a committment by the boy and his parents....
In most of the cases that I have seen, (including one with a minister and
his son who was the SPL) there has been some sort of lacking in committment
by one or both. When the Scoutmaster and the minister and SPL finally
sat down and talked, it became apparent that the SPL hadn't been totaly
truthful to both the SM or his dad. The boy is a really smart kid and
had too many irons in the fire. The minister was blaming the SM for
assorted things that mostly weren't true. What it really came down to was
that the SPL wasn't doing his job and mostly wasn't comming to meetings because
he was spread too thin. The answer here was that the SPL stepped down.
Other cases, particularly new boys comming out of Cubs into scouting, the boy
wasn't that active in Cubbing, usually because of the lack of committment by
the parents. In these cases, I think that you have to talk to both the parent
and the boy.
A lot of the time, parents have no idea what is expected of themselves and
their son. Many are not committed to support their son at the level that
is required by an active Troop.
August Treubig Brotherhood Member
Advisor, Explorer Post 679 Chilantakoba Lodge # 397
Former ASM & CC Troop 796 Advisor to Scribe & Publications
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