Scott Dillard (scott.dillard@CHRYSALIS.ORG)
Fri, 10 Jun 1994 06:26:43 LCL
SC>As a frequent staff member of scoutmastership fundamentals training and
SC>in my two experiences on Woodbadge staff, I am uncomfortable, at best,
SC>with the idea of these new scouters joining in the established training
SC>program for adults. I have been on staff when a new, 18 year old
SC>assistant scoutmaster took the scoutmastership fundamentals course, and
SC>believe it was not appropriate.
SC>One of the methods of training, at least here, is to role play a scout
SC>troop with the learners taking on the role of the boys.
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I have a somewhat different opinion on at least part of what you say.
In the "for what it's worth department", I'm also a Scoutmaster and
active in district and council level training, including Wood Badge (two
As far as Wood Badge goes, I agree. I recommend to all transitional
Scouts that they not worry about getting their beads until after college
and a couple of years after that after being active in a unit.
(Horribly contructed sentence apologies)
But, I have a different opinion on Scoutmastership Fundamentals courses.
I encourage all young men who are assuming adult leadership roles to go
through this training, including 16 and 17 year old JASMs! The key is
that they are going to be working in the Scouting program in a role
where they need to perceive Scouting in an adult mode.
The "living like a boy patrol" method is important for the older crowd,
but the youngsters need the philosophical and structural parts of the
course. This course can be a major building stone in their journey from
thinking like a youth towards thinking like an adult Scouter. The
structural part is perhaps less important, but a lot of times they've
never paid a whole lot of attention to how the adult side of the troop
is organized and run. More importantly, they get exposed to more and
more of the philosophical side of why we're involved in Scouting (aka
"why we're paid the big bucks"), how we interact and relate with the
boys, etc. It's often a whole new world for them and a wonderful growth
Then, we make them take it again when they get back from college.
Reading between the lines of your original message, it sounds as if
you've only experienced one 18 year old going through the course, and it
was a bad experience. I've worked with quite a few over the years, and
my experience is different.
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