Re: Quartermaster stuff
Mon, 30 May 1994 13:14:14 EDT
On Sun, 29 May 1994 23:12:32 EDT "Settummanque, the blackeagle"
<waltoml@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU> wrote (Re: Quartermaster stuff):
>Rob White <rsw@TFS.COM> writes:
>>OK all you highly organized, highly motivated, and experienced scouters.
>I *know* you're NOT talking about me....I still have boxes unmarked
>sitting in three closets and it takes me about four hours to find
>things that are not in four file cabinets around the office room (and
>I *still* misplace stuff! hehehehe )
Quit pulling our legs, Mike - we know that's your filing system, and if you
ever did it any other way, you wouldn't find ANYTHING at all :)
>>Give me some ideas here (I already have my own ideas, but you may have
>>some better ideas).
>>My unit has a gear room (about 14 X 14 feet (4.26 X 4.26 meters)) with
>>a high ceiling and good shelving for storage of all the troop gear.
(Stuff deleted for brevity, but related to decrepit condition that patrol
equipment is kept)
>What I did as Scoutmaster was to have each Patrol to give me a "patrol
>color". Then, using spray paint and permanent markers, I marked the
>gear with a spot no larger than one inch in diameter several locations
>on the items. This made it extremely easy to id items like lanterns
>which look alike and when exiting places quickly, are "thrown into the
>box" and taken out.
A while back (some time in March, I think) someone posted a suggested patrol
color marking scheme which came from B-P. Maybe if you present this to you
Patrol Leaders Council, with some "romantic" terms about the good ole days,
they may take to it.
>When the Troop comes back from a campout, the tents are hung in the
>Quartermaster room of the building and let air-dried for one week
>before we packed them back up for the next trip...this is something
>that the Patrol comes in on a weekend or after school and does on
>their own (remember Rob, that I was a Scoutmaster in the pre-Youth
You have a luxury of a real storage ROOM, rather than a closet. Take full
advantage of it.
(More stuff relating to acountability and check-out method deleted)
>...The rules at the bottom of the equipment card said that
>"Only the Patrol Leader or Assistant or the Patrol Quartermaster can
>sign out equipment and only the Senior Patrol Leader or Assistant or
>the Troop Quartermaster can recieve signed out items."; and "If it
>leaves clean, it is returned clean. If it leaves in one piece, it is
>returned in one piece. If not, your Patrol is responisible for
>getting suitable replacement. TREAT IT AS YOUR OWN...it will last
Amen! This way, Troop funds don't have to be used for constantly replacing
missing or ruined equipment, and helps teach the boys care for community
items they may not otherwise get at home oor in school.
>The equipment is checked out one week before the planned camping trip
>to insure that everything is in place, clean and of course, all there.
>There's ALWAYS something that's not there, either because the Patrol
>Leader didn't clean it and left it in the basement or because someone
>took it home and it stayed there. Cross-levelling (whereby everything
>is evened out between all three patrols) is done at the pre-camp
>meeting. Also at the pre-camp meeting, each Patrol insures that all
>of their personal gear is ready to go (and in one Troop, they brought
>their backpacks and other stuff to the Scout hut so that we could
>leave right after school...it was an idea of the previous Senior
>Patrol Leader and the incoming one simply kept that policy...the
>reason why they did it besides the getting out of town early thing,
>was because at one campout, they had to wait for almost two hours
>while some kid packed his stuff at the last minute to go. So the rule
>at Troop 169 was "If your stuff isn't at the Scout hut the Thursday
>before we leave, we leave without it" (that wasn't the real rule...the
>rule was "if your stuff isn't at the Scout hut Friday morning of the
>day we left, we leave you and your stuff". Kids can be MORE DEMANDING
>than we adults can be, trust me!)
We had similar problems, and addressed them in a similar manner. We got to
be pretty good about not losing or ruining stuff, once we realized WE were
buying the items from Troop funds, when we could be funding other events
(that took some of the newbies time to soak in - but the new parents were
always the worst...).
(Stuff related to equipment deletd)
>>We have footlocker size cook boxes that need to be restocked. Presently the
>>legs for the boxes are kept inside the box, thus getting dirt inside
>>the box, I am trying to think up ideas on how to store the legs on the
>>outside of the boxes but still make it possible to stack the boxes in a
>>truck for easy transport.
>I used the "cook boxes" when I was a young kid, and later in two of
>the four Troops I served as Scoutmaster for. While the convienence of
>having everything in one box is there, today's Scout (younger and not
>very atheltically built) can't tote the boxes even from the truck or
>van to the campsite and then standing it on it's legs can be
>hazardous. I left the legs behind and placed the boxes on top of the
>extra Coleman icechest for some height.
That's one way to do it, but it could be rough on the ice chests. One
advantage I see, could make life difficult for any critters which would be
scavenging the site for food.
The first Troop I was in had a similar problem, which we resolved by putting
a "pocket" on the back of the cook boxes. The legs went in there. The
pocket was a thin plywood sheet which was spaced to allow insertion of the
legs. Now, we never let one boy carry the cook boxes - we were mostly small
kids. We would get four older boys - one on each corner - and carry them off
the truck. Or, if we were lucky and could get the truck there to the site,
we would pull the boxes out so that one end overhung the tailgate. We would
attach two legs, then we would move the cook box so that the other two legs
could be attached. We got pretty good at it, and with more than two kids, we
could do it with some relative safety.
BTW, we only took the cook boxes to such things as camporees and easily
accessible sites. We would never consider taking the boxes where we would
have to tote them more than 100 yards.
(Description of cook boxes deleted)
>That's all I can offer right now....
Wow, Mike, you offered quite a lot for someone with only 98 more to go... :)
I know that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, but the boys should be taught
to look at everything in life as a learning experience, and even such mundane
things as care and preparation of Troop, Patrol and personal equipment can be
used as learning tools, if the proper directed guidance is used, and the boys
aren't told they are really going to a different kind of school.
BTW, Mike, good to see you back. Give my regards to Jessie, will you?
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City