Re: religious knot
Ian Ford (ianford@DIRCON.CO.UK)
Tue, 24 May 1994 00:21:11 +100
I've replied to George as well. Here in UK it is permissible and
acceptable to wear military medals and Orders with Scout uniform.
However, the practice in the British forces is very different to that in
USA. Most US servicemen I know have a row of " gongs " whereas in our
forces any sort of medal ribbon is a rarity - awarded for either Long
Service and Good Conduct or for active duty.
Sometimes Scouters will use their military rank - socially it is
considered acceptable to use ranks above Major in this way. One of our
former County Commissioners " Colonel " Bill Hall was a Lt-Col in the
Reserve Forces and wore his Territorial Decoration ribbon. A few
Scouters also wear Police or Fire Service Queen's Medals.
The there are various Orders - sometimes a Scouter will get Membership of
the Order of The British Empire in recognition of services to Scouting or
youth generally, or will acquire a decoration as a result of other public
It is, however, considered " bad form " to try to " pull rank "
in any form - whether that is a military rank or Scouting position.
Conversely you do not see UK Scouters with pockets full of Scouting ribbons
or knots. Our first Long service award is for 15 years adult service, and
the Medal of Merit is awarded for " outstanding services " over a period
of at least ten years. Likewise there is not the same sort of ( dare I
use the word snobbery) attached to either Wood Badge or other adult
distinctions. Leaders do not have badges of appointment - only Group,
District and County identification. There is a nameplate with name and
designation available, but these are rarely worn apart from at certain
meetings and conferences.
I am often amused by the vanity of individuals on the 'net who choose to
append to their signatures a list of their awards, OA status, Wood Badge
AGSL 25th Greenwich Scout Group
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City