Ian Ford (ianford@DIRCON.CO.UK)
Sun, 22 May 1994 00:08:31 +100
On Sat, 21 May 1994, Dave Hultberg wrote:
> S> So, before you slam the Jamboree fee, why don't you look into the reasons
> S> for the steepness of that fee where you live. Being Helpful to Third World
> S> Scouts and being a brother (or sister) to every other Scout carries some
> S> responsibilities with it sometimes.
> I have no problem with the concept with being a brother or sister to my
> fellow scouts.
There are other factors ... My understanding is that a lot of the costs
are taken up with additional items , e.g. when I visited the USA with
some British Scouts we stayed at a camp site where there were dozens of
tents being sold off that had been used just once at a jamboree - I don't
know if it was national or world. Apparently the " powers that be "
wanted identical tentage etc. and so the Council had bought several
thousand $ worth of new equipment. Presumably the depreciation was
charged to the participants in their fees.
When the American Council returned our visit they had a speciial flag for
the troop, golf jackets, special patches ... I gather that this is the
standard thing for jamboree type events. Some folks even had
special visiting cards printed ...
It may be that some cost savings could be made on some of these sort of
extras before blaming the relatively small subsidy for third world
Scouting participation levied on World Jamboree participants by the
As for International experiences, there are loads of events in Europe
every year, and with bulk booking the cost of air fares are relatively
cheap. If you organise return hospitality in homes and Scout campsites
the cost can be kept right down. In 1988 we did three weeks in USA for
about $550 - even with inflation it should be less than $1k. Plus we did
fundraisers to keep the cost per kid down. Information was distributed
two years in advance to Cub Scouts and younger Scouts who would be in the
troop when the trip took place, and a savings account set up for parents
to pay in. We also had some commercial sponsorship..
As for the incomes of the participants from third world countries, all I
can say was that about 18 months ago I was invited to meet some Scouts
from Banjul who were visiting England. Their trip had been funded by
local Scouts. Six Scouts came over (no leaders!) and enjoyed home
hospitality with the British Scouts. These lads were very smart, but it
was clear that their uniforms were recycled (possibly army surplus) and
that they did not have much in the way of other luggage ... The troop
was attached to a school where some of the kids could not attendd
classes because they could not afford to provide an ordinary biro.
There may be that sort of poverty in USA, but I doubt it.
Just a thought...
AGSL 25th Greenwich Scout Group
Former Program Director, " Operation USA 1988 "
Greenwich District, South London UK
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