Re: New Cub Academic Belt Loops/Pins?
Settummanque, the blackeagle (waltoml@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU)
Fri, 13 May 1994 14:17:54 EDT
Michael Dobson <dobson@NET.USUHS.MIL> writes:
>While scanning SCOUTS-L for juicy tidbits Settummanque, the blackeagle wrote:
>> Michael Dobson <dobson@NET.USUHS.MIL> writes:
>> > At Roundtable Wednesday evening one of the other Cubmasters mentione
>> >seeing four new awards in the academic series: Mathematics, Citizenship,
>> >Heritage and one other I've forgotten. He said the belt loops and pins
>> >were in the Scout Store but no books describing the requirements to earn
>> >them. They were also not covered in the Leader's Guide for the
>> >Sports/Academics Awards.
Could the other one be Sciences? I don't know for sure.
>> Oops! Your Council is getting ahead of the game! Give it a couple of
>> weeks or until the first week of June...the awards will be announced
>> formally at the upcoming National Meeting of the BSA (as I've
>> mentioned, there are several new changes coming forth in ALL of our
>> programs, and the additional academic belt loops (AND the
>> manuals/guides for them) are one of several).
>Even our District leaders were unaware of these awards. What was even funnier
>according to the Cubmaster who saw them was that someone had already
>purchased the Mathematics belt loop! Guess there are Packs that want to
>"Be Prepared" when the new awards hit the system. :-) Is it possible to
>qualify for them before they are announced or can work toward them only be
>credited after the "offical" release date?
I don't think so....you *could* write the Cub Scout Program Division
and ask them to send you a copy of the new requirements, but by that
time, the announcement would be made in _Scouting_ and in other
mediums (ProSpeak and the Scout Executive's bulletins, among others).
So, I guess, patience is the operative word here...
>As an aside, I mentioned SCOUTS-L at our Rountable and was asked how
>to subscribe. Many were familiar with rec.scouting but unware of this
>list. I gave them my e-mail address and said I would e-mail the Intro
>document to them as soon as they sent me a message. Now if I could just
>get our DE, District Commissioner, District Chair and the Council Exec onto
>the list .....
(*boohiss for Rec.Scouting from Mike Walton...*) I guess Rec.Scouting
*has* gotten around to a lot of Scouters, but that's because of the
fact that they are very contraversial...not for the great information.
However, I do read and contribute there and so do many others from
this forum do the same (and I do encourage it....sometime, those that
are trying to make it hard for the rest of us will give up and go back
to those other forums and leave Rec.Scouting alone to do Scouting!).
That's a funny thing, Mike....some local Councils don't mind having
their professional staffs on forums like this and most either frown
heavily on it or insist that professionals stay off of them. This is
partly because they are fearful that someone will express an opinion
contrary to the "official policy of the BSA" (probable, but can be
explained by one of those "three-lined sig files" which disclaims the
statements as being "official" unless otherwise noted), or which will
tie up the professional moreso than his or her "regular tasks" (again,
probable, but that's a call of the professional and not necessarily
his or her boss...I could see it both ways). The main reason is
because the BSA has been telling its professional cadre that there
should be only ONE "line of communication" between its volunteers, the
local Council, and the National Council...and that's through the
established BSA literature, the periodicals of the BSA, and of course,
the Council service center and its staff (the professionals and the
core volunteers). However, as technology improves performance, and as
this forum shows several times over the past four years plus, many
times what's perceived as "retention of information" ends up being
"restriction of information"....information that we need to do our
So, I wouldn't hold out much hope for your Council Scout Executive or
your DE to get online....only if they have the time and are willing to
read and understand and when responding, do as I've been doing, and
stating "this is what the BSA says...." and "this is what Mike Walton
thinks" and the two may or may not be the same thinking....
Keep trying, though!
Settummanque, the blackeagle... (MAJ) Mike L. Walton (
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