Re: Gaudalupe Mountains
Jon Eidson (EIDSON@TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU)
Thu, 12 May 1994 17:00:57 CST
On Tue, 4 Jan 94 09:12:40 CST you said:
>Would you please send me a trip report? ;-) I'm jealous. My Jan. calander has
>beatuful picture of the snow "dusted" trail leading to the peak. This is one
>the few places in Texas that I still haven't visited that I want to visit.
>Seriously, I would love to get the details of your trip to help in planning the
>trip I intend to make someday. With or without a group! I'm taking a crew to
>Philmont this summer, but it looks like they want to go to Carlsbad instead (on
>the way up). I guess they think there will be enough mountians in Philmont.
Since others may be interested in this, I decided to post to the entire
list. Thanks, Jon.
I had planned to try and really do up a nice report and post to the
group, but I never got around to it. Since you are planning to go
to Philmont, I thought I'd better go ahead and reply.
The Guadalupe Mnts has some really nice trails and such. You can
do some hiking and backpacking. Note if you are backpacking, there
is no water (even creeks) that can be counted on. You ARE in a
As far as camping at the park, it lacks a lot. The camp sites are
small and rocky. They allow NO fires at all. I think the max people
per site is 6 and usually room for only 1-2 tents. They have a group
camping site (for up to 20), but they too are small. Finally, they
will not allow groups to have the "normal" campsites ... this really
ticked me since I knew the group site was not avail, I was going to use
the regular sites. We didnt know the rules until we arrived (after
8 hours of driving), but after much "discussion" they allowed us to
stay. The ONLY reservations they take for camping are at the group
sites. Over the Christmas holidays, this was not a problem, but it
could be a problem during the summer. Campsites are given on a first
come first serve bases--arrive early.
As to Carlsbad, the "new cave" tour also requires a reservation, but
I really enjoyed it. Do this first before the regular cave. The regular
cave will really blow their minds since it is SO much larger than the
"new cave". What was a bit of a dissapointment was that the King and
Queen's chaimbers are now closed to the public due to vandalism. You
now have to make reservations to tour these rooms. Theses rooms are
by far the most spectacular rooms in Carlsbad. Since I didnt know
we needed a reservations, the tours of these rooms were already booked
and we didnt get to go.
Finally, in case you didnt know, there is not much camping in and around
Carlsbad. In fact, Guadalupe is about the closest. When I'm traveling
to Philmont, I like to camp at Clayton State Park just outside of
Clayton, New Mexico. It is a really nice state park, with a beautiful
lake. If you talk to them, you can stay free if you do a service project
(such as picking up trash, etc.). Another advantage of this park is
that you are at about 5-6000 feet to help get use to the altitude and
it is closer to Philmont. I always try to get into Philmont at about
7:30 to 8:00 a.m. to get an early start on the day. That way you can
have some time to take in the tours of the Villa and Museums.
Hope this helps and again I'm sorry it is so late in coming.
Yours in Scouting,
Jon Eidson, Scoutmaster Troop 76, Weatherford, Texas
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City